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Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:15 PM by joeprogressive
Now that it is really over as far as the math goes, everything that is said here can be potentially used against Obama in the fall. It probably won't make much difference but every now and then some unfounded post ends up in the hands of the right wing talking heads.
Let's face the facts: HRC supporters on DU have been nasty and Obama supporters have been nasty. One side has not been nastier than the other. I used to think it was HRC supporters that were much worse but I realized that was my perception because I was projecting my anger I felt about HRC and her dirty tricks and betrayal to the Democratic party. Both sides of supporters are equal in blame.
The major difference lies with the candidates. Minor policy differences aside, Obama has run one of the cleanest campaigns ever. HRC has changed the rules at every opportunity and run one of the meanest and deceitful campaigns ever. She may be tarnishing her and Bill's reputation forever. However, if you want to go on policy alone, it is really simple, HRC voted for IWR. Iraq will go down as one of the greatest foreign policy disasters in history and she was complicit in that failure.
I know we are supposed to be mending fences now but what I have seen posted since Obama's romp last night disgusts me. Many are posting about how Obama is unelectable. That was your campaign's strategy yesterday so people would vote for HRC and maybe she could sway enough superdelegates to win the nomination. It was a long shot yesterday and it is an impossibility today. HRC may be going on but HRC supporters need to decide where they stand once it is officially over. If you aren't going to support Obama in the fall you mine as well leave now because you won't be conforming to DU rules.
Like HRC, the way you conduct yourself now will have an impact later. Don't go down with your ship when you have a perfectly good ship standing by to jump on to. As far as the questions about what do us Obama supporters have to do to win you over. The answer is absolutely nothing. If you are so childish that you would jeopardize the future of this country, the future of your children the future of the Supreme Court, then you are not someone that can be reasoned with. We owe you nothing, just as you would owe us nothing if the roles were reversed. You vote for the Democrat if you are a Democrat. It is that simple.
I have stated many times that if HRC won the nomination I would vote for her, support her candidacy financially and even volunteer for her. All that despite the hatred I feel for her now. Obama has done nothing for you to feel that kind of hatred toward him except beat your candidate. To some of you, I guess that is enough. Recent polls show that 50% more HRC supporters report they won't support the Democratic candidate if it is Obama compared to Obama supporters claiming they wouldn't cross over. That tells you how much more selfish and childish HRC supporters are. As far as the Obama supporters that stated they wouldn't cross over either, I feel the same about you.
Grow up people and do the right thing and spare me any threats that this post makes you want to vote for McCain even more. Those threats are old and meaningless. If you think by doing something that will harm your own self interests so you can get back at an anonymous poster on DU is smart then go for it, because you may be dumber than the current occupant in the whitehouse.
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