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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:10 AM
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12. Let's see here
1-Caucus delegates are inferior - Hillary hopes to win a majority of the delegates elected through primaries and then argue that Obama only has the total lead in delegates because he garnered more delegates through the unfair caucus process, thus entitling Hillary to the votes of the superdelegates.

I'm sorry it says that where in the DNC rules? It's hard work to rally your troops for a caucus. Winning caucuses shows dedication and committment of supporters and demands an excellent grond operation. A shame Hillary was unable or unwilling (as in the case of many small red states) to do this.

2 - Popular vote - Hillary will argue that the popular vote rather then pledged delegates should determine who superdelegates vote for. Corzine is now out shilling this meme. As a subtext to this meme, she will argue that should she pull within, let's say 50 delegates or less of Obama, that it is "tied".

She is unlikely to win the popular vote. Though I suppose if she employs some mathematical gymnastics she may claim that she did (by excluding caucuses, or excluding red states, or whatever). She'd have to win a blowout in Pennsylvania to even have a chance at this unlikely scenario.

3 - Big states - Hillary will argue that the winner of the "big states" should get the superdelegate votes if she also wins PA, trying to make a case that the old Red-Blue map is most important and that Obama's 50 state strategy won't work, so pledged delegate totals should be ignored by the superdelegates who should, of course, vote for Hillary.

By that logic she seems to be implying that she has the better chance of carrying Texas. And her plan for winning Texas in November is...? She forgets that small and medium sized states have superdelegates too, and they will be most offended by this argument.

4 - (The most desperate argument) Elected delegates are not really bound to any candidate and can vote for whoever they want. I think by far this one has the most potential to completely blow up the Democratic Party if she is able to pull it off.

That will only backfire. Pledged delegates are more committed to their candidate than Green Packers fans are to their team. That would be like asking a Packers fan to become a Bears fan.

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