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deckerd Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:25 AM
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12. What about a Third chart of names, Please?
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 05:34 AM by deckerd
You might want to do a chart establishing Stone's alleged relationship to the dirty tricks themselves. Without that, your first two charts, while absolutely wonderful, are meaningless to the most well-informed person.

Might I suggest a chart with the following names spun out in roughly linear fashion below:

Marty Heldt (alleged alternative source)

"Original" Source (Burkett's colleague)

(disputed claims he witnessed) Rove/Bush Rove/Bush
| |
Payroll/Official Docs (trashed) ---By:--- NAMES --at request of-- NAMES
^
|
(became well known over 4 years for claiming to have witnessed)
|
|
Bill Burkett (the patsy) (burned originals at request of)

"Lucy Ramirez" (the front person)

Antonio(?) Ramirez (name of spokesman for) Elian Gonzalez in-laws

(related to) Nydia Stone (see below)

Bill Burkett's female friend (name?) (witnessed Burkett at trade show)

Unknown White Man at Trade Show (the mule)

Yvette Lozano AKA "(?)" (what was her pseudonym, if any, when she dumped fake tapes on: )

(Name?) Gore Operative who got duped by fake tapes

Roger Stone ------- NY Post ------ Unchallenged DNC Press Release

(alleging that Stone forged or duped the CBS Memos to replicate: )

Original Memos From Private File ---written/dictated by: Killian
(secretary to)
(claimed to have typed by) Knox (CO in 73 of 1st Lt. GW)

Other Retired TANG witnesses

(interviewed By)

CBS Producer ---- (Name?) (interviewed & gave copies to) Dan Bartlett (gave to) Rove
Mapes (hired) (released to media w/out comment)
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| CBS Authenticator who Turned Out to Be Amateur
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| Handwriting Specialist (also authenticated another legendary disputed doc; cite?)
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| CBS COMPUTER font "experts"

(forced to back down by independent "experts": )

COMPUTER font "experts"

(?) "expert" who stated there were no "th" in verified * docs (false)

NON-FONT EXPERT techie who cited "pseudo-kerning" and centering

(cited false kerning claim: ) Howard Kurtz (husband of? ) Republican campaign person(?)

(?) who stated "th" must be above the line to count as superscript
(on a typewriter, vert. position of letters depends on random variation plus backing up the drum a half-step, an optional, easy, manual step)

Buckhead (see chart of on-line RW opposition researchers

(relationship to Rove)


Ret. officer Staudt
(alleged to have lobbied) ------ Killian

(relationship to) --------- Former TX Sen. GHW Bush -------

(admits he was requested special favors for * by ^^ )
||
Ret. TX Speaker Ben Barnes


Nydia Stone, wife of Roger Stone (related(?) to)

(Name?) Other Relevant Person(s) from Recount Mob

Chuck Colson

Lee Atwater

Karl Rove

Forged(?) "yellowcake" memo (part of: )
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| Cancelled CBS Story (60 Minutes, "Rationale For War")
|
(used to discredit)

diplomat Joseph Wilson (criticised justification for war in front of)

(specify venue) (also heard from) Richard Clarke

(recommended for Niger fact-finding mission by wife: )

Former CIA NOC Valerie Plame (outed by)

Robert Novak
Unnamed Admin Official (also contacted)
Journalists A, B (names?)

(under investigation by) Name of FBI investigator
| |
(reports to) AG Ashcroft (interrogated) (Cheney's COS) -- VP Cheney
who else?
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