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Not_Without_A_Fight Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:16 PM
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Are we pivoting away from 'the cause' by trying to figure out Bev Harris?
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Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 03:25 PM by Not_Without_A_Fight
Are we going to be so partisan that even our vote fraud investigators have to declare party allegiance first?

I haven't been following the BBV/BH thing, mainly because I was more interested in Ohio. Still am.

Maybe BH is a crazy RWinger -- but at least she is working on this issue that is supposedly so near and dear to our hearts. And from what I read she seems well educated on the e-fraud issue.

Right now, in Ohio, Team Conyers is fighting a very uphill battle to get the f*ing Republicans, on the Juduciary Committee, to do anything more than laugh at them. Conyers is asking for 1 million email to demand that the Republican membership participate so that the Conyers' investigation will have subpoena power. If we are really serious about this issue -- we must be willing to at least steer clear of the extremely polarized US v. THEM routine.

Yes, Republican's policies and platform are, in general, abhorrent to us. But, we won't change their 'totally wack' mindset with election reform. Don't confuse these two issues. Fair honest elections is a separate effort than trying to get the Republicans to understand things like 'taking the fight to terrorists -- so you don't have to fight them at home' -- might be a reasonable philosophy -- but only if you can find the terrorists when you get there.

Or -- are we just like the Republicans -- only interested in the vote tampering story if the other team takes it in the head and we put our man in office? If so, this story is going to be a revolving door and we all will tire quickly of it and both just advance our expertise at vote tampering and e-fraud.

For our effort to have any meaning to our country, we have to be willing to take the long view and clean up the system -- not just partisanly hammer the other guys (as completely tempting as that is -- remember Frodo being tempted to keep the ring for himself rather than throw it into the fire and save the world?).

Dems have participated in vote tampering before and we will do it again. And, as a proud liberal, I, personally, am prepared to 'get a little of it on me' in the effort to secure fair and honest elections in this country.

P.S. Calling the opposition the dark side is creepy. Team Bush may be the dark side, but the people who voted for him may just be misguided. My best friend in one of these people.

I apologize, in advance, to any I have offended -- but I have to ask -- so, guys, what's it going to be?
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