Please stop saying "Bush Won" or "Kerry Really Won". The

[Laura PourMeADrink]

biggest tactical error, IMO, of yesterday was our side saying that Bush won. We shouldn't say Kerry really won either.

The thing that makes disenfranchisement so effective is that you can not measure it. You can not possibly count all the people, from across the country, who waited and then went home, waited and then went to work, voted at the wrong precinct, got that flyer that the election was Nov 3rd, registered to avail, punched Kerry and got Bush, etc. etc. And you don't REALLY know who they they would have voted for anyway.

What all of them yesterday should have said was, "Because of the evidence of massive disenfranchisment that Representative Conyers has only begun to amass as well as problems with the voting machines, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO REALLY WON."

This has worked much better with Republicans I talk to because it doesn't put them on the defensive when you say their guy didn't really win and they don't roll their eyes when you say Kerry really won and you don't have to lie and say Bush really won.