Okay, nashuaadvocate brought up something that I have been thinking about for days in the following thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x298329I was just thinking about this last night. I think we DO need a new group, mainly because there is a lot of talk in this forum about whether or not fraud even occurred, or potentially good threads that degenerate into a debate about whether or not Kerry is a chump in relation to the Election Fraud issue.
These are perfectly valid conversations in this forum, but they distract us from focusing on facts, research, and activism. I really think we DO need a seperate group for a few reasons. I understand the desire to focus THIS forum, but the problem is that whenever we try, a lot people react by implying we are trying to squash dissent here. And while that is frustrating to those of us who WANT to focus on the action and not the debate, those people are ultimately right. This is a big, public board, and lots of things fall into the category of this forum. We shouldn't try to stifle discussions that other people find important jsut because we are prioritizing differently. This forum would continue to exist, and there will probably be an overlap.
THe benefit of starting a Group for this is that we can put in the mission staement that it is assumed that fraud occurred, and topics must pertain to the ongoing effort to expose & remedy fraud. If the mission statement is written properly, then debates about whether or not fraud occurred wouldn't happen. THey can still happen here, and threads about Condi and the inauguration and other election result related stuff would still happen here. But the new group would be FOCUSED.
DU is huge, that is why they started the groups - so people could focus.
I say let's do it.
MISSION STATEMENT:
To those posting in XXXXXXXXXXXXX Group, it is a GIVEN that fraud occurred. We are dedicated to the following: compiling, analyzing and scrutinizing data and evidence of election fraud; discussion of media coverage of election fraud and reform; creating plans of action for media blasting, contacting our politicians regarding election reform, rallies, protests and other forms of action and activism; discussing the Election Reform and voting methods.
Name of Group:
--ELECTION FRAUD AND REFORM ACTION GROUP
---THE WAR ROOM (as proposed by BigBearJohn in the previous thread - my only fear is it sounds like it's about the war in Iraq)
---OTHER - PLEASE GIVE YOUR IDEAS
ALSO GIVE IDEAS FOR CHANGES/ADDITIONS TO THE MISSION STATEMENT
IF 10 FOLKS WITH STARS AGREE, I WILL SUBMIT THIS TO THE MODS.
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KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!