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Ignoramus Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:45 PM
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22. explanation
My wording was not the best.

I interpret your post as like: determinism doesn't make sense, because by the logic of determinism, decisions about theories about it would have been predetermined. So, because reason disproves the idea of determinism, determinism is false because reasoning would be involved in reasoning about it.

The problem is the assumption that reason and justification disprove determinism.

The notion that we magically choose things is based in the notion that we travel freely through time. It assumes that there are simple discreet things that encounter each other, instead of acknowledging the interconnectedness of "things".

For the sake of argument, consider time as a dimension, like width is a dimension. The width of your body doesn't travel from left to right. The width is just the width. You can draw your attention over your width from left to right. Similarly, if time were a dimension, you wouldn't travel in it in the normal sense. Awareness of a coordinate in time could appear to be traveling across it though.

So, decision could be a bifurcation in a pattern of mentality existing in time.

I didn't finish reading the sited article. I might start reading it again but I'm about to be distracted.

What I read seemed to make a similar sort of leap back and forth between describing determinism and arguing against it in terms of a given assumption that determinism is false.
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