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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 08:01 AM
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28. Ironically, you are the one limiting this god idea
Omniscient has a meaning. It's an attribute widely assigned to the Judeo-Christian god and is, a reminder, the focus of this thread, which applies to all putative omniscient gods.

It means "all knowing" obviously, and there is no way to weasel out of all knowing by pretending that it could mean only knowing little snapshots of future history if God so chose. To make that choice, God himself would have to decide what to limit his future knowledge TO, surely? And to do that he would have to, obviously enough since he knows everything, know what parts of future history he is excluding from his own knowledge. As such he would still be in a position, being omnipotent, to change where his self-imposed blinkers operate and where they don't, thus still removing humanity's free will as God has already decided what knowledge of the future he will allow himself, but had to know ALL the future to make that decision.

The ONLY way to allow the free will of a creation is to limit the knowledge or power of the creator. God can only create free will if he either does not know the future (at any moment, and hence is not omniscient) or if he lacks the power to change it (and hence is not omnipotent).

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