Reply #134: That's what I thought. But I wasn't trying to be condescending.

[humblebum]

Now where did I ever say that "other ways of knowing" didn't utilize empirical data or objective proof? I made no such claim. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Depends on the application. Usually they are referred to as epistemologies. Logical Empiricism is one type and the Scientific Method is the prime example of it. It (Logical Positivism, not the SM) has certain limitations that have caused it to slowly lose favor.

You didn't even read "Postpositivism is an amendment to positivism that recognizes these and other critiques against logical positivism. It is not a rejection of the scientific method, but rather its reformation to meet these critiques. It preserves the basic assumptions of positivism: ontological realism, the possibility and desirability of objective truth, and the use of experimental methodology."

It's nothing more than finding better or different methods of accomplishing something or better ways to do things. Only two "disciplines" that I know of can be said to be 100% objective (theoretically)- science and math. Others use varying degrees of objectivity vs. subjectivity. Now are you telling me that engineering doesn't use standard methods or axioms, and that sometimes new ideas and methods are introduced that challenge old ideas?