As per Strong Atheists request I've created a new thread, which is really a continuation of this
older thread, but things were beginning to get a bit cluttered. I hope that this thread can continue on with the same debate without degenerating into a flame war.
Strong Atheist has asserted that he is 100% certain (as in: beyond a shadow of a doubt) that there is no God. Orrek and I disputed such a claim and say that no one can say they know anything with 100% certainty because by doing that, they would be professing to be omniscient. Since no one can be omniscient then we asserted that his argument is based on
fallacious logic.
The goal of this thread is to form a debate between Strong Atheist and myself, I am taking the position of an
Agnostic Theist - someone who asserts a belief in God but admits that he cannot prove the existence of God. I am then asking Strong Atheist to offer his compelling evidence against my arguments for God in an attempt to convince me of his beliefs. The goal of this exercise is to point out the fallacious logic in which is being argued by proving that his claims can never be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, therefore he cannot say he is correct with 100% certainty and that he was arguing from a fallacious premise.
The only rule I'd like to place upon the debate is that no one call each other names, flame, or insult. It should be a debate back and forth discussing the various positions and facts.
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BEGIN DEBATE:
I am not certain if there is a God or not, but I've come to believe that there is through various events in my life. When I was younger my mother was really sick and in the hospital, the doctors said she wouldn't make it. They couldn't even figure out what was wrong with her. Then somehow, some way - she got well and got better. She is still alive many years later today. My family believes it to be some type of miracle that we got by praying really hard. We believe in the power of sincere and honest prayer - that it can sometimes do strange things in someone's lives. We think there is some type of scientific reasoning behind it that people do not yet understand. I consider myself to be an Agnostic Theist and do not hold myself to any major religion although I just feel really strongly within my heart that there is a God of some type somewhere.
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Alright, that's the start of my claims for the debate. Also I should make clear that I am not really arguing from my personal point of view, but rather from the point of view of an
Agnostic Theist. I consider myself to be an
Agnostic Atheist.