Reply #29: Exactly the point I am trying to make.

[Meldread]

One cannot argue - from either side - with absolute certainty. If they make the attempt they are doomed to failure from the very start of the debate. If both sides try and prove something with absolute certainty they will fall into a circular argument. If one side concedes that they may be incorrect and the other side continues to claim that they are correct and the argument continues, the other side is doomed to failure.

Simply put the burden of proof lays upon the shoulders of the one who makes the claim. You can only say, "based on my own personal experiences I have come to conclusion X". That is the point of this thread and its exercise - to prove that point.

However, where it becomes interesting is when both sides concede that they may be incorrect. That is when it comes down to the actual discussing of individual pieces of pro and con evidence.