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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:13 AM
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32. On further consideration, I now retract my agreement re: PSI and EMF
And I'll tell you why: Because some dogs can smell cancer cells.

"(only an)....attuned mind" can perceive it. Instead, EM fields were not accepted because the equipment for demonstrating their existence simply didn't exist in any standardized, usable form. Does that really seem, to you, to be the same as someone who claims that two pounds of brain can detect magical energies wholly invisible to any and all electronic equipment?"

And I will make this assertion in the terms of your argument stated above.

Now before we begin, I must point out (yet again) that this recent "discovery" that dogs can smell cancer or sense an impending epileptic seizure or dangerous diabetic episode was firmly in the La-la fringe column before scientists decided it was "real".

When the fringe-y doctors who first believed their poor, superstitious, ignorant patients when they said their dogs kept nudging the very spot where they had a cancer came across the phenomenon...of course they were pooh-poohed. Time passed.......Eventually somebody devised a series of double blind test (why, yes, I do know what they are and how they work) to put the dogs through their paces.

As it turned out SOME dogs can detect cancer with over 80% accuracy. But not all dogs. I'm making an important point here so pay attention: SOME dogs, but not ALL dogs seem to be able to detect cancer with a fairly high accuracy rate. Now, you notice I'm NOT saying that the non-detecting dogs don't smell the cancer. We have no way of knowing that. They may not smell it. They may not have the sensitivity to smell it. On the other hand, they may smell it but not recognize it for what it is. Or their brains may not be able to process the information in the same way as the detecting dogs.

Now replace the word cancer with the word PSI and/or EMF and the word dogs with the word people.

Scientists seem to be willing to admit that some dogs have sensitivities to things that scientists themselves cannot even detect using their oh-so-godlike machines (an impending epileptic seizure or diabetic episode)In spite of the fact dogs have brains that measure in ounces, not pounds. But neither you nor scientists in general are willing to admit that mere humans might have similar abilities. Ones that we cannot yet measure (much as we cannot measure impending epileptic episodes...up to a couple of hours in advance with one dog)

And since we can't devise a test for it, it obviously does not exist right? Except that DOGS can consistently DETECT things that MACHINES cannot. So, in this case, do we deny the existence of: dogs, epileptics, cancer or scientists?
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