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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 05:50 PM
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35. Sorry buddy, but nowhere did I in there claim that communism
and atheism are the same thing or that they are equal. You are clearly interpreting, calculatingly and purposely so, my statement that says nothing of the sort. If I say that all card-carry communists in the USSR in the 20th century were atheists, I am correct simply because the communists in the Soviet Union were Marxist-Leninists and as such are required to declare themselves to be atheists. But, I have also said before that there were atheists there who were not communists, which is true.

Organized atheism in the USSR existed in Russia before the Revolution, but Communism (Marxist Leninist)ensured that it had little official competition. As far as Communism being organized atheism - I never said that. You only claim that I said so. Atheists in the Soviet Union were organized into many different groups and not all those in the groups were communists. I have intimated that more than once. I even mentioned McCabe, who was an ardent supporter of militant atheism (his words), but he was definitely not a Marxist-Leninist Communist.

Organized atheism is organized atheism, whether they be communists or not. Republicans can be atheists, Democrats can be atheists. No I never said that communism was organized atheism, nor that all colors of communists were atheists. you are purposely trying to distort my words and intentions. However, "the history of organized atheism" does include Marxist-Leninist communists, who are and were required to officially declare themselves to be atheists and to renounce any religious affiliation.

So from now on when you accuse me of conflating communism and atheism, remember that I know the difference and I also know how you operate. No, they are not the same thing, and not all involved in organized atheism are communists. And if you continue down the same road, you are brazenly putting out false information.
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