Reply #15: of course, that presumes Collins believes in a clasical theism's god...

[Exiled in America]

...which is not a given.

I for instance, couldn't look for proof of a "supernatural being" for several reasons. First, if its "super-natural" then its not going to be provable naturally. Second, I don't believe god is "supernatural." Third, I don't believe god is a "being."

So every time people say the same thing over and over "there's no proof of a supernatural being" I continually go... "that's because its probable that no 'supernatural being' exists. That has no connection to my belief in that which is worthy of being called "god" since god is, in my opinion, not appropriately called "super-natural" (thus outside of nature) or a "being" (as though he is one being along side other beings.

I'm just sayin' :)