Reply #56: Completely correct.

[Chovexani]

Trust me, I know these fuckers well.

There's a reason just about every state DOMA also has a clause against "anything that resembles marriage" ie civil unions and domestic partnerships. It's not about the word marriage to fundies, it's about their absolute terror of the state legitimizing what they feel are "deviant lifestyles" in any sort of way. Which, incidentally, is always why they emphasize "ONE man ONE woman" (these bastards are savvier than people often give them credit for).

What it all comes down to is bigotry and utterly superstitious bullshit. A lot of people are unaware of the pervasive belief among fundies, fundie evangelicals in particular, that American exceptionalism is due to God having his hand of protection on the nation (apparently their god is a level 80 Protection Paladin in World of Warcraft). And that every society that "legitimized" homosexuality fell horribly--their favorite example is the Roman Empire, which shows just how averse to book learnin' they are. They seriously believe that if LGBT are given equal rights and treated like human beings, God will withdraw his protection on America and we will all be destroyed. When fundies talk bullshit like gays caused 9/11, gays caused Hurricane Katrina, THAT belief is what they are referencing.

And this is why we cannot reason with them, or change their minds. This is the bugfuck crazy shit we are dealing with. Yes, there is a certain class of conservative religious type whose mind can be changed, but that particular superstition runs deep among Talibornagains and there really is nothing we can do to alleviate it aside from handing out mass dosages of red pills.