Justice, Speech, Perception, Society

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This is really pathetic. We have a recurring cast of characters with readymade mindgames and bully ("but I'm the innocent victim here") tactics and brave DUers stepping up to waste their time trying to make sense with them.... a few voices are a breath of fresh air.... one old timer that I affectionately refer to now as "ever the antagonist" ;) comes off rough but at least has INFORMED opinions and attempts actual discussion.

The point has been proven here that SIMPLY BY POSTING SOME QUOTES out come the sharks to bloody the waters so no one can read the damn thing..............

There are some important statements here that we could look at together and MAYBE LEARN SOMETHING if we could drop the assumptions and attitude and the schoolyard "if you don't show up after school I know yer a chicken" bullshit.

For example:

"Justice meant maintaining white power just as misogyny fuels the woman-hating spectacle of porn, defined as sex. White men directed their rage at enslaved and subjugated people even as those very people were left powerless to defend themselves without deadly consequences."

"That men scrutinize women's bodies more closely after viewing pornography is, at first blush, a neutral point in terms of free speech. But this scrutiny is not separable from the fact that, in a professional setting, men hear less of what women have to say after viewing pornography. Other studies confirm that pornography has the ability to delegitimize women. After viewing either traditional pornography or nonpornograhic slasher films, men have been shown to view women as significantly less than equal and to display less sympathy with statements about sexual equality than they had before. Exposure to aggressive pornography also inclines men to disbelieve survivors' allegations of rape, and to believe instead rape myths, including the myth that women tend to lie about sexual assault." (pp. 125-126) ...by Michelle J. Anderson

THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT FOLKS. If some of youse drop your assumptions and simply consider the social implications of what's being said here without jumping to all your conclusions and killing the thread (AGAIN) just think about it.

Otherwise, once again, the point has been proven:

"Leftist males who are threatened by feminism or female leadership within progressive movements can find reassurance in the rhetoric of libertarianism used to justify the inevitability of the sex industry and that a patriarchal order of things is left unchallenged somewhere."

And here's one of my fave replies above:

"How is their movement any different than those that would ban violent video games or otherwise curtail freedom of expression?"

:rofl: :rofl:

Step back for just a minute and think abou the notion that some of us equate freedom of expression with "violent video games." No really-- I mean OBJECTIVELY. Oh right, the Framers were prognosticating "Grand Theft Auto" when they drafted the Constitution.

These pathetic non-discussions are just as predictable as ping pong-- back and forth and back and forth, taking up space.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS THE OP, DON'T TRY TO KILL THE THREAD WITH MINDGAMES AND FEIGNED INNOCENT INSULTS.