5. Just the other night I was having a discussion with two friends--one a moderate,
one a conservative--about the issue of torture. The conservative said "waterboarding is not torture. Nobody gets killed from it. We even do it to our own guys." I was so happy to hear Ritz say what he did about being in a more or less safe environment where our guys know the "demonstration" will not end up with them being drowned. This is what people like Hannity and Limbaugh just do not get. Or choose to ignore.
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