Reply #34: consideration is a thing of the past...by adults...

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i never blame a child for piss poor behavior..ever..it is the adults fault a child misbehaves

and many adults misbehave period!

we are a society that thinks everyone has to "put up" with our kids..or put up with our own lousey behavior

the rules are for everyone else it seems!!

i flew to europe in March ..a 8 hour flight and the man behind me felt i should not be able to put my seat back..so he held his foot on the back of my seat preventing me from reclining the seat..

i called the flight attendant and asked that she tell the man to remove his feet from the back of my seat..he did until the f/a walked away ..then it was back to pushing my seat so it would not recline!

i had taken a tylenol to sleep with and i was forced to sit straight up for over 8 hours..because of this man's ignorance!

if the man wanted more leg room he should have flown business class or first class..and i told him so when we landed..i told him he was a pompus asshole

my best friend and her daughter sitting next to me slept the entire time reclined in their seats and i was miserable!

on our return flight a child screamed throwing a temper tantrum for 3 hours..literally screaming till the child turned red and blue..with barely breaths in between..making everyone in the cabin infuriated.

we have become such a me me society ..that we only give a rats ass about ourselves and to hell with everyone else.

now that is not everyone..but many of us!

I was a flight attendant..and i can tell you in the last 10 years people have just become downright ignorant in their behavior.

just look how people show up to travel today..

many people don't respect themselves, the way they come to the airport to travel..so why would they respect others?????


just before i retired i had a mother onboard who screamed at me because i would not allow her to put up her stroller for her child..she screamed at me awful..because she said her child could not go to sleep unless in the stroller..

well i don't know if you have ever looked at the size of the isle..if there is a stroller in the isle no one is getting through the isle..this lady didn't give a shit..she screamed and screamed at me..

and i said..no go..it is a FAA reg that nothing is in the isle..period..

she wrote a scathing letter to the airline complaining about me..so on my day off i had to go to the airport to explain myself..to a group of supervisors...

I was polite but firm..i never broke FAA regs..period..the rules are there for the safety of all the passengers..period

then i had an adult man who would not put his computer and papers under the seat for takeoff..he was in an emergency isle..i told him 10 times he had to put the stuff away..he refused..he was an older guy with a trophy gal with him so he was showing off..

so i told him he had one last time to put the stuff under the seat..he had a huge water bottle and when i turned around he squirted me..the whole back of me..

so i sweetly turned and took the bottle from his hand and told him when we landed he would be met by an FAA agent.
when we were leveled off, i made him sign a FAA paper that he broke FAA regs..or we would land and he would not only be arrested, but he would pay the landing fee as well..

i then had passengers around him sign as witnesses..

what he, nor i knew at the time.. was the Top Attorney for the D.C.State Dept was sitting next to him. When we landed this woman approached me and said it was the best she had seen any flight attend handle a situation like that..
the FAA met the plane..the guy got a 10,000 dollar fine and he was banned from flying any domestic airline for 10 years..

the State Dept attorney was a wonderful witness!!

oh... the stories i can tell..

but to be honest..it is parents ignorance that makes a childs flight a horrible experience.

bring stuff to amuse a child..quiet stuff..practice before you fly..saying we have to have whisper time...or use a whisper voice..practice it..make it a game...and read your child a book..one they have never seen before..

my child was on over 200 flts before he was 2 years old..and flew his whole life..and never once did he ever make noise..it was unexceptable for his mommy!! i read to him..i played hand games..and i told him what i expected of him on a plane...he knew he was not allowed to put his feet on the floor without my permission..this way he was never in the isles and posing a threat to himself or to others..

planes and children are dangerous..no one ever knows if or when you can hit turbulance..either regular or clear air turbulance...children not strapped in can be projected like a bullet in the right turbulance..

why people treat an aircraft different than their car blows my mind...one is going 60 mph and the other 500mph...

a severe drop in altitude could project a child to hit their heads on the ceiling and break their necks!

adults need to start acting like responsible adults..

i am not your childs parent ..you are ..act like it ..is what i tell those who i love.or are dear friends,who will be flying with children.

the safety of your child is your responsibility

but like i said..i never blame the child ..i blame the rudeness of parents..the irresponsibility of the adults..and parents..

a child is a product of their environment..and let me say..America..we need to get our shit together..

and we all need to start being more considerate of each other.

the rules aren't just for everyone else...rules are for all of us.

I can not say if that flight crew did the right thing..none of us were on that aircraft..

we do not know exactly what happened..so to judge is silly!..on either side ..the mom or the flight attendant

if the child was making everyone on that plane miserable..the flight crew has to think of the majority..

remember they are in a tube going in the air..there is no time out room...and angry people on an aircraft in that tube in the air can be a danger..so the majority have to be taken into consideration..

if you don't like those rules..take it up with the FAA..

not the flight crew.

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