Reply #34: The Point Is That The Iraqi Government Welcomes Our Presence And Therefore We Are Not In Fact

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foreign invaders any longer.

That's a fact, whether you like it or not. My point was that under the OP's premise of do the Iraqi citizens have a right to kill us, my answer is no, they don't. They should absolutely take whatever civil means they can to pressure their government to kick us out, as we are doing here as well. They could also condemn the violence to begin with and rise up to serve in the police force so that they can actually enforce the security of their nation on their own. That would be the biggest accomplishment, because if the Iraqis had a competent security force of their own there would no longer be any cop-out available as to why our presence is needed to begin with.

But lord knows there are a brazillion reasons why shit is so fucked up there right now. Our presence is only making it monumentally worse. No one's arguing about that. But this discussion was based solely on the premise that we are foreign invaders. Regardless of how against the war I am, I'm still going to be up front and honest with the reality that we are no longer foreign invaders but instead there at the request of the Iraqi government.