Reply #125: I stand by my post.

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"So my two main points, which I think are 'worthy of discussion' whether you do or not:
- DHLs put us here, not the DLC or Hillary Clinton
- They, the far left (of which I am a member) simply cannot be trusted - Dems need to move right."

Worthy of discussion? Yes. Severely flawed nonetheless? Absolutely.

The DHLs did not put us here. Several factors conspired to put us here. The fact that you can't accept that, despite the fact you've pointed it out several times, make me wonder whether it's even worth my time to try and set you straight. I'd also like to mention that some of those factors are actually illegal. To put more blame on any group legally exercising their Constitutional mandate to participate in the Democratic process is ludicrous.

By the way, as long as we're blindly conjecturing and assigning blame without proof or citation, how many centrist Democrats or Independents do you think were soured on the party because of rabid, territorial Right-leaning Democrats who threw insults around as if they'd somehow magically turn into valid points of argument?