Reply #4: probably not in the sense that you're meaning.

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europe has been undergoing a transformation since the end of WWII.

with immigration being the latest in a series of issues that has placed pressures on how europeans define themselves -- i.e. being british today really isn't the same as 30 years ago.

also remember that thse are much smaller countries and changes show up much more rapidly -- however they have done an extraoridinary job of taking in folk from all over and adapting relative to the size of their countries.

i will say that italy certainly takes in people from other countries -- and morrisey isn't going to escape that there -- but like france r spain - there are attempts to remain authentically italian.

the important word here is authentic -- and it really comes down to things like farming and bread making and how marriages go.
i don't think any of us -- well probably not free traders -- wants to live in a McCulture -- something bland and with out individual character.
how do you do that> -- europe is very much going through that kind of transformation.