Reply #110: Man, this is getting tiresome.

[ElboRuum]

"The Catholic church is the enemy of goodness."

Really? That's just amazing to me. One would think, then, that Catholics would be evil incarnate. After all, they belong to the religion that's just the enemy of goodness, don't they? But you know what's remarkable? They aren't. No lie. Most Catholics might be called kind and decent, and there are some here on DU you may want to talk to about this.

"It matters not that many members and lower echelon church leaders are decent people. That's true of the GOP and organized crime, too."

Really, it doesn't? Did you even read the OP, sir/madam? Did I not say that I was not about to attempt to come to the defense of the Catholic church? Did I not say that I was coming to the defense of those who, of late around here, have been openly challenged to completely renounce their religion and faith because it annoys and confuses people claiming to be "principled" and that those who continue to be Catholics are hypocrites by definition?

DUers, of ALL people, should understand the intellectual dangers of blanket generalizations and condemnations.

Look, I don't know what axe it is you have to grind, nor do I care what irritations you have with the Catholic church, but as I said before to many others, this ISN'T ABOUT THAT. This is about the predilection of late here on DU of taking Catholics to task over what others have done in the name of their faith, including the leadership. If they had a vote in what happens in Rome, then MAYBE I could see how people around here would be rightfully outraged at Catholic individuals, but as it stands, there is no cause for that kind of incivility. It is awfully presumptuous of them as well to insist that remaining Catholics in the face of this is somehow a statement against their "progressivity quotient". If someone told you that you needed to renounce the faith you held your entire life because it wasn't "progressive" and it was the "enemy of goodness" and if you didn't you'd be a hypocrite and no better than the faith itself, I'd like to see your reaction.