O'Reilly transcript: Bill tries to attack Gore with RW talking points, Kerry defends him

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Of course Bill used the occasion of John and Teresa's book as an excuse to try and attack Gore's environmentalism.

No surprise - Kerry backs up Gore.


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O'REILLY: Now, your book, why should people invest time and money, Senator, in buying another book after Al Gore's book. Why should they do that?

J. KERRY: Well, as Al says on the book itself, this is very different. This is not just about global climate change. It's about a broad group of issues that concern all Americans. And it connects everybody. Red state, blue state, Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal, they all have a stake in this.

And what we've done is taken the example of average Americans around the country, some of whom — one woman, Tweedy Blancette in New Mexico, was a Bush coordinator in 2000.

Rick Dove, who is a river keeper down in North Carolina, is a Marine, 67 years old, retired from a career in the Marines. And now he's working full-time trying to protect the surroundings around him.

These are the stories of people who are fighting to make a difference in their local communities but who are proving there's an enormous amount of money to be made by companies. There's a lot of jobs to be created. American dominance in the world market is at a stake. This is about jobs and our future. And it's a win-win if we do it right.

O'REILLY: Anything that gets us to clean energy and away from the Gulf and Hugo Chavez is all right with me.

Now Mrs. Kerry, when you hear Al Gore attacked for his big house in Tennessee. You got a lot of big houses. You guys are rich guys. And then, you know, some people who don't like you say, "Why are these people telling me what to do? Look at them. They're on their private jets. They've got their big mansions."

How do you respond to that?

T. KERRY: First of all, this isn't a book that divides Americans to who has and who doesn't have houses, apartments or whatever. The important thing is what do I do or what does anyone do about protecting our natural resources, whether it's oil and energy, whether it is planes and carbon sinks, whether it is cars and hybrids.

And more importantly, it's an invitation to other people to join us in figuring out how we live more reasonably. We don't have all the answers either. We're looking for them. It's hard.

And I am making a lot of changes and have been. And I'm not there yet. But we are both doing it.

O'REILLY: All right. Listen, again, I think you're right. I think that all Americans should come together and try to make this the cleanest country in the world and get away from these bad guys who are just exploiting us like crazy. And I think both parties will come together. I hope they do. But Senator...

J. KERRY: We hope we do, Bill. But you know, we're doing a lot of things like changing the kinds of vehicles we drive, trying to, you know, alter our homes, alter the energy use, the grid we use, the light bulbs we uses. I mean, all those kinds of things.

O'REILLY: Yes, everybody should do it. But isn't, you know — when you saw the grief Gore took for his big house, was that fair? Is it a fair shot?

J. KERRY: Well, actually his house, he buys from an alternative energy source. He buys carbon neutral and he buys green. So in fact, he's taken solid steps to try to address the fact he lives in a larger house.

The bigger issue is what are we going to do about the larger question of the emissions of carbon? If we build 140 coal fire plants the way we're planning to, and if China builds one coal fired plant a week over the next years, we're finished.
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