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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:04 PM
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Why I think melamine is a danger
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Edited on Sat Apr-07-07 10:08 PM by undergroundpanther
To pets.Why I blame renderer's ,vets who dispose of euthanized pets in plastic bags..and the plastic industry..
for this poison pets ingest .. and I think the melamide is part of the toxic stew that kills their kidneys..


"Even plastic winds up going into the pit. Unsold supermarket meats, chicken and fish arrive in styrofoam trays and shrink wrap. No one has time for the tedious chore of unwrapping thousands of rejected meat-packs. More plastic is added to the pits with the arrival of cattle ID tags, plastic insecticide patches and the green plastic bags containing pets from veterinarians.
Skyrocketing labor costs are one of the economic factors forcing the corporate flesh-peddlers to cheat. It is far too costly for plant personnel to cut off flea collars or unwrap spoiled T-bone steaks. Every week, millions of packages of plastic-wrapped meat go through the rendering process and become one of the unwanted ingredients in animal feed.
http://www.preciouspets.org/rendering.htm

Fancy that mixing carbolic acid with melamide..It Generates water soluble toxic products.And creosote creates heat when mixed with melamide potentially liberating more of the toxins into the slurry.Wonderful.
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A greater sensitivity of cats to a chemical found in plastics and pesticides could explain why they’ve died in larger numbers than have dogs after eating contaminated pet food, experts said Saturday.

The small number of confirmed reports of pet deaths bolstered by a far larger number of unconfirmed anecdotal reports suggests cats were more susceptible to poisoning by the chemical *melamine* (as incyanuramide) that tainted the now recalled pet food, officials with the Food and Drug Administration and American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals said Saturday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17870750/

Remember.. melamine is also called cyanuramide and it is used to make PLASTICS it is a resin,and guess what renderer's fail to take out of their dead animal stew as they cook it? The PLASTIC.
What happens to plastic if it is BOILED? Sublime in it's insidiousness isn't it

More about Melamide..
Melamide Sublimes when gently heated. (NTP, 1992)
sublime - means to vaporize and then condense right back again


SYMPTOMS: Symptoms of exposure to this compound may include irritation of the skin, eyes and mucous membranes. It may also cause irritation of the upper respiratory tract. Other symptoms may include urinary bladder stones, diuresis and crystalluria. Dermatitis has been reported. Kidney injury may occur.

ACUTE/CHRONIC HAZARDS: This compound is toxic by ingestion. It may be harmful by inhalation or skin absorption. It is an irritant of the skin, eyes, mucous membranes and upper respiratory tract. When heated to decomposition it emits toxic fumes of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and nitrogen oxides. It also emits highly toxic fumes of cyanides. (NTP, 1992)
http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/20588

At the rendering plant a machine slowly grinds the entire mess(of carcass creosote BHT plastic,) in huge vats. Then this product is cooked at temperatures between 220 degrees Fahrenheit and 270 degrees Fahrenheit for 20 minutes to one hour.(including the plastics and chemicals,pesticides etc.

Diseased, disabled, dying or dead livestock, known as 4-D livestock, commonly find its way into commercial dog food as a cheap source of protein. The US government requires 4-D meat be “denatured” with harmful chemicals before leaving slaughterhouses to prevent the meat from being marketed. These diseased, chemically treated carcasses are sold to rendering plants.
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"In my time as a veterinary meat inspector, we denatured with carbolic acid (phenol, a potentially corrosive disinfectant) and/or creosote (used to preserve wood or as a disinfectant). Phenol is derived from the distillation of coal tar, creosote from the distillation of wood. Both substances are very toxic. Creosote was used for many years as a preservative for wood power poles. Its effect on the environment proved to be so negative that it is no longer used for that purpose. According to federal meat inspection regulations, fuel oil, kerosene, crude carbolic acid, and citronella (an insect repellent made from lemon grass) are the approved denaturing materials."
ttp://www.bullmarketfrogs.com/articles/dogfood/index.htm

How do these chemicals react when heated with melamide? Anyone know if it is a toxin?


The noun melamine has one meaning:
a white crystalline organic base; used mainly in making melamine resins Synonym: cyanuramide
melamine (mĕl'əmēn') , common name for 2,4,6-triamino-1,3,5-triazine.

Melamine is a trimer (see polymer) of cyanamide, H2NCN, and is synthesized from calcium carbide. It condenses with formaldehyde to give a thermosetting resin. Melamine resins have many uses, including the manufacture of plastic dishes under the trade name Melmac.
http://www.answers.com/topic/melamine

A list Other Names for Melamide
02284 (CA DPR Chem Code) , 1,3,5-Triazine-2,4,6-triamine , 108-78-1 (CAS Number) , 108781 (CAS Number) , 2,4,6-triamino-1,3,5-triazine , 2,4,6-triamino-s-triazine , 2284 (CA DPR Chem Code) , 777201 (US EPA PC Code) , **Cyanuramide** , Cymel , **Cyromazine** breakdown product , Melamine , S-triaminotriazine , Tiaminotriazine

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC35459

And was does a hazmat search on the names of melamine reveal?

CYANURAMIDE ?? it is melamide .What happens as it sublimes into the rendering stew? Could the process of"cooking carcasses" release the melamide/cyanurmide make a kidney toxin.. Maybe. Don't dismiss it.Especially when mixed with crap like BHT.

http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-profiles/summary.tcl?edf_substance_id=108%2d78%2d1
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