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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:12 AM
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2. Here's a little help.
1. That's a 2003 survey. In 2003, I was just acknowledging that climate change was real. A LOT has been learned in recent years.

2. The LTTE seems to believe that 81%=70%; 56%=41%; and that models and "high priority issue" mean the same thing. The writer is trying to make oranples (mixing apples and oranges.)

3. The 19,000 scientists nonsense is just that. It's nonsense. Only a small percentage (and probably VERY small) of those 19,000 have degrees in the relevant fields. Fewer still have advanced degrees. So their scientific opinion is no better than your or mine.

4. The "international conference" was a joke:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/what-if-you-held-a-conference-and-no-real-scientists-came/

5. The 51,000 survey is new to me. An off-hand guess is that they went way heavy on the engineers and undergrad degrees since that is the usual method of denialists.

6. The debate is settled within science. It is a very rare peer-reviewed paper that is published in reputable scientific journals that disputes GW at all. Those few that dispute its causes (predominantly human activity) and do manage to get published are quickly crushed for good scientific reasons. So, within science the debate is about as over as it can be in a rapidly growing field.

I hope that this is some help to you.
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