Reply #8: I've never, ever, supported either of them at all,

[TomorrowNeverKnows]

Capital punishment is really hypocritical; Killing someone who kills to show that killing is wrong. Plus, there's nothing to show that it actually deters capital crime/violence, if it doesn't actually make it worse. That has happened in Europe many times, it's a cycle of violence. Torture is violence, and nothing reliable comes out of it anyway. We as a people should be well past the ages where both or either is normal and thought to be helpful. Granted, a lot of other countries have far worse human right records, but we aren't exactly perfect either, especially with foreign detainees.

As to which is more heinous, that's a tough call. They might be equally so.