Reply #64: i will reply to you piece by piece

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"But, like any ideology it becomes a vice when taken to its extreme and treated like dogma."


no one mentioned any dogmatic formulation. we are talking about the same movement that liberated american workers and ensured safe working conditions and the 8 hour work day. there is no vice in that.


"But, the larger point is that if you really think Obama (who is ideologically representative of Democrats) =Bush/Cheney, then you really shouldn't call yourself a supporter of his or a Democrat."


you are the only person in this thread that has used the phrase "Obama=Bush/Cheney." you using the rhetorical gambit of a true sophist to smear your interlocutors. plus, as has been pointed out to you, being an Obama supporter isn't required to be a Democrat.


"People like Hedges are free to foam at the mouth and talk about how "Nader was right.""


take up the issue then and discuss the ideas. the modern rw smear has infected the body politic since reagan. it is cowardly and betrays a lack of intellect on the part of its practitioner.


"But, they can't honestly then claim to be 'supporters' who are holding him accountable. They're his political opponents who seek his defeat and want to undermine his agenda. Again, that's their right, but it's a lie for them to suggest they're anything other than a hostile political movement."


EVERY politician must be held accountable. to swear blind fealty abdicates your duty as a citizen.