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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 01:56 PM
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23. What are you talking about with this 2nd paragraph thing?
All I said in that second paragraph is that if you look at the landscape today, acess to abortion and funding for abortion are less than they was 5-10 years ago. Taxes are lower than they were 5-10 years ago. Can you honestly say that either of those points aren't demonstrably true? And to answer your question, I care about those things because they are bad for the country. So to imply that just because abortion is totally illegal (yet), or that because there are still SOME taxes that we've won and they've lost is just absurd on it's face.

And of course they want way more than they get from the likes of the candidates running. That's how you progress a cause and acheive goals and that's how you negotiate ANYTHING that is up for negotiation. You ask for and seek way more than you know you'll get. And as we've seen on most issues, you end up getting more than you would have if you otherwise started from a point of "Hmmm....I'll accept much less than that."

The fact is that whether it is in what they say or what they (try) to do and get done, the Republicans work to please their base and don't take them for granted. Democrats not only dont do that, they actively try and run away from them and pretend they don't need them.

If you think that's a great strategy then fine. You won't have to account for it's success or failure because you can just blame everything on all the people who are even slightly left of center, and who might want even slightly more than that and think that maybe we should be doing something other than chasing the Republican carrot on a stick
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