Reply #161: Uh, you're the one who's posting a dilemma where we must agree with a fucking liar.

[joshcryer]

Cheney is a liar. There is nothing to agree with him about.

As far as "Obama doesn't do what I want him to do," stuff, he's a politician. There are things that you might not like about politicians, like, for instance, they don't usually give up power once they have it (Chavez is a big example of that, but it goes even deeper). And that ultimately (in a democracy) they want to get reelected above all else. Of course Obama isn't going to stir the boat in his first term, it is absolutely asinine to believe that a "middle of the road" "building bridges" type of campaigner would ever do that in their first time.

I doubt he'll do it in his second term, too. But he never campaigned that he would and it was fully expected to me. It'd be nice to be wrong on that count.