Reply #38: Wow - You were doing the hard work figuring this out back in Dec '09...!!

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And it looks like many of us missed that post --

it came and went in a 24 hour period, it seems.

Maybe due to the holidays -- maybe as an unwelcome post?


FRANKLY, I have a BS meter which has made me wary of Obama and many others --

so I have not listened to his speeches -- though I could have read TEXT and didn't --

and I counted on those liberal organizations monitoring this stuff who should have been

alerting us on the pro-MIC, pro-capitalist, "Reaganesque" junk Obama was spouting -- !!

In that sense, my BS meter backfired --


The Obama you've given us insight isn't much on the New Deal or Great Society or liberal

"interest groups" -- yet the New Deal was one of the greatest STIMULUS packages ever for

the economy -- and, btw, democracy. It's as close as we ever came to economic democracy,

without which there is no democracy!


Sadly, Obama is revealed as clearly pro-MIC and pro-corporate solutions --

Pro-American Imperialism and Capitalism -- in way almost suggesting he is SELLING himself

to elites listening?

And, strongly agree, that much of what Obama says sounds like Republican talking points!!


Thank you for your continuing hard work which always benefits us here at DU --

and .......

What now -- ? Any ideas?





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Your OP was also shocking in relating that at the time of Obama's speech in '04,

we had 37 million Americans in poverty -- 12.7% while that number has now

increased to 66 million -- more than 20% of our population!!


And, I've also been trying to get this out on Jonathan Cowan, Pres. THIRD WAY which

now controls the Dem Party .... One morning last week he appeared on C-Span --

think it was Washington Journal? Rather early in the a.m.

Cowan made clear that it was the stance/policy of the Third Way that "the base of the

party is to be ignored."

And that populist and populism in discussions/debates was the "equivalent of Karl Rove

propaganda of extremism" -- !!!


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