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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-12 11:15 AM
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3. It's hard to say whether he did more damage with NAFTA or with repeal of Glass Steagall, but
the combination was lethal to our economy and to that of the Western world, for that matter.

You are so much a better person than I, DD. I cannot tolerate Hagel for what he did to Hormel--and I am not even gay. I do not know how you overlook the likes of him.

But yes, I would like to see the best that Democrats have to offer in that position. Gates? Panetta? Obama, please!

Meanwhile, looking up Hormel (of the family that invented Spam!), I learned that Luxemborg is pretty cool.

Ambassadorship

In 1994, President Bill Clinton considered Hormel for the ambassadorship to Fiji, but did not put the nomination forward due to protests from Fiji officials.<1> Gay male sexual acts were punishable with prison sentences in Fiji and Hormel's being open about his sexuality would stand in conflict with the culture. Instead Hormel was named as part of the United Nations delegation from the US to the Human Rights Commission in 1995, and in 1996 became an alternate for the United Nations General Assembly.<1> In October 1997 Clinton nominated Hormel to be ambassador to Luxembourg, which had removed laws prohibiting consensual same-sex acts between adults in the 1800s.<1><2> This appointment was the first nomination or appointment of an openly LGBT person from the US.<1>

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved his nomination with only Republican and conservative Senators Jesse Helms and John Ashcroft opposed. Three other Republicans, James Inhofe, Tim Hutchinson, and Robert C. Smith, with the urging of religious and social conservatives campaigned vigorously against Hormel's nomination. Trent Lott, the Republican Majority Leader, worked to block the vote and publicly called homosexuality a sin and compared it to alcoholism and kleptomania.<1> Christian-based conservative groups like the Traditional Values Coalition (TVC) and the Family Research Council (FRC) publicly accused Hormel of being pro-pornography and anti-Catholic and the Senators presented those charges to derail the nomination.<3> They asserted that Hormel would be rejected in the largely Catholic Luxembourg. To support the pornography allegation, a list of materials in the Hormel collection at the San Francisco Public Library was compiled by the TVC; it was later pointed out that the same works were also in the Library of Congress.<3> The anti-Catholic allegation stemmed from a 1996 San Francisco Pride parade television interview where he was seen laughing at the same time the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a group that pokes fun at religious conventions, walked by.<4> The Catholic League opposed his nomination because of his "embrace" of the Sisters which the League considers an anti-Catholic group.<5> Although it was unclear why he was laughing, Christian right conservative group FRC distributed video tapes to the entire Senate of the brief event.<6>

Concerns about Hormel's reception in Luxembourg were "blunted when officials of the country, which has laws against discrimination based on sexual orientation, indicated that he would be welcome."<7><8> Senator Alfonse D'Amato of New York found the obstruction of the nomination an embarrassment and urged that Trent Lott bring the issue up for a vote.<9><10> When Lott continued to stall, Clinton employed a recess appointment in May 1999. Hormel was sworn in as ambassador in June 1999. His partner at the time, Timothy Wu, held the Bible during the ceremony.<11><12><13><14> Also in attendance were Hormel's former wife, his five children, and several of his grandchildren.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hormel

The 1800s! Cool!








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