Reply #26: There really isn't much objective info on this

[loyalsister]

What instructions did the protestors receive from police?
I really think there is an important distinction. This is not civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is breaking an unjust law. Practical laws designed to filter traffic efficiently do not qualify as unjust.

This whole story is suspect. Police obviously have their story and occupiers have their story. There are not enough facts. The video of them being corraled does not qualify because we do not know if there were instructions on how to proceed.

What were they told?
1. stay on the sidewalk only
2. everybody crowd around front and center
3. no instructions

Did the cops communicated and the protestors were too irresponsible to pass the message on?
Did they send a message that increased chaos?
Or, is it just too chaotic to organize effectively?

Seems to me more like a cluster f*** mess that can not necessarily be fully blamed on one or the other.

Taking advantage of chaos that is actually dangerous to get arrested and accuse cops of being unfair is just silly and amateurish.

Getting arrested unfairly for utilizing the right to assemble freely is one thing.
Getting arrested for breaking laws that serve a purpose for public safety is something else entirely- and really not defensible. And it will NOT garner the public support this movement needs.