Federal Plan to Keep Data on Students Worries Some

[rainbow4321]

http://tinyurl.com/46xeu

WASHINGTON, Nov. 28 - A proposal by the federal government to create a vast new database of enrollment records on all college and university students is raising concerns that the move will erode the privacy rights of students.

Until now, universities have provided individual student information to the federal government only in connection with federally financed student aid. Otherwise, colleges and universities submit information about overall enrollment, graduation, prices and financial aid without identifying particular students.

For the first time, however, colleges and universities would have to give the government data on all students individually, whether or not they received financial assistance, with their Social Security numbers.

[Cronus Protagonist]

1. Looking a little drafty, eh?

I shouldn't joke, but sometimes it's necessary.... things are getting chilly brrrrr...



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[Rose Siding]

2. Privacy, schmivacy

Freedom, schmeedom. Liberty schmiberty. I could go on but I'm cracking myself up. (delerium liberalium)

[caligirl]

3. D R A F T

This is kthe forked tongue of GW Bush the red states could not or would not see.

Get the info and then refuse to keep the Pentagon out of it or just hand it over to them under some invented reason like wmd.

I have a a kid in college and a 16 year old that is 4f( can't pass the draft physical) but his name would go in as well.

Welcome to Nazi Germany folks. You can't belleive this crap.

[insane_cratic_gal]

4. No child Left behind

With the No Child Left Behind Bill, Rumsfield managed to throw in a whammy. Schools receiving federal education funds must hand over the names, addresses, and phone numbers of every junior and senior to local recruiters upon request. If the school refuses to hand the information over, the Department of Defense steps in and with threats of federal funding being taken away

I just posted in the politics room about Bush trying use his pell grant cuts as a means to stimiluate a draft..without actually saying Draft.

he cut 90,000 pell grants and altered 1,000,000 so those who reapply may not get as much or not even quailfiy for a grant.

[Sabriel]

5. Gee, I wonder if low GPA students will get a mass mailing?

"Hey, friend, are you struggling in college? Can't figure out what you want to do with your life? Then join the (One)-Armed Forces! We'll set you on your career path!"

Gag.

[HockeyMom]

7. Daughter and Leave No Child Behind

Three years ago my daughter was a Senior in HS. Since she had already turned 18, I could not sign that parent's "Do Not Call" register under Leave No Child Behind. So, the Military got her name from the school and called her; AND CALLED AND CALLED AND CALLED. She was getting VERY UPSET that they WOULD NOT TAKE NO for an answer. The man told her "we have not met our QUOTA with your school." At first she told him that she was not interested and to please stop calling. It did no good. So, I finally told her to tell him in no uncertain terms to stop calling her. Actually, she had to literally tell him to SHOVE IT to stop the calls.

I wonder how much of the public knows about this provision of Leave No Child Behind. If they were that desperate 3 years ago with young WOMEN, I can just imagine what it is like today!

[caligirl]

8. Here's what I said...............

When the recruiters started calling my oldest while he was in HS I told the recruiter if he wanted to discuss this he would have to do it with my husband the Colonel, he would be happey to speak to him about bothering our son.


In other words they only understand one language. We never got another call. Fortunatly my husband really is a retired Marine Colonel and knows what they understand and how they understand it.


"Shove it" is good gunnery sargent language.

[Liberty Belle]

10. I had the same problem.

They kept calling my son, too. I finally told them that this is MY phoneline, not my son's, and that I'm on the federal do-not-call list. I ranted about the insanity of Bush's war, told them my son is tops in his class and has an excellent future ahead of him--in college--not the bloodbath in Iraq.

He hasn't called back.

[caligirl]

6. call your congressmen about this one. I just did.n/t

[caligirl]

9. how can you get this out to college students? N/T

[George_S]

11. DNA tests too?

That way they can ban some from the get go. You know, those who don't join the Student Conservative Wingnut Cause. There is probably a gene for that.

[AndyTiedye]

12. I Certainly Feel a Draft

[rainbow4321]

15. Poorer high schools targeted, also

Guess they are covering all the bases..those that get to actually go to college will be kept track of and those who may not get to go will be targeted while still in school. At this rate, they will be visiting kindergarten classes very soon to catch the ones that drop out before they GET to the upper grades!



http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/11/29/military_recruiters_pursue_target_schools_carefully?mode=PF


POMFRET, Md. -- Military recruiting saturates life at McDonough High, a working-class public school where recruiters chaperon dances, students in a junior ROTC class learn drills from a retired sergeant major in uniform, and every prospect gets called at least six times by the Army alone.

Recruiters distribute key chains, mugs, and military brochures at McDonough's cafeteria. They are trained to target students at schools like McDonough across the country, using techniques such as identifying a popular student -- whom they call a "center of influence" -- and conspicuously talking to that student in front of others.

Meanwhile, at McLean High, a more affluent public school 37 miles away in Virginia, there is no military chaperoning and no ROTC class. Recruiters adhere to a strict quota of visits, lining up behind dozens of colleges. In the guidance office, military brochures are dwarfed by college pennants. Posters promote life amid ivy-covered walls, not in the cockpits of fighter jets.

[mulethree]

13. climate change sucks

since the Sept. 11 attacks, the balance between privacy and the public interest had been shifting. "We're in a different time now, a very different climate," Ms. Harris said

Different kind of climate change, but it is every bit as bad :'(

[Ima]

14. I'd say it's a lot worse.