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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:50 PM
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Johnny Carson dead
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 01:58 PM by doxieone
cnn

Addendum: Died early this a.m. per Wolf on CNN.

No memorial service.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:51 PM
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1. This is horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIP. You made me laugh a plenty!
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muse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:52 PM
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2. I just heard this also.
Sad. It's interesting that the news just came out that he has been feeding Letterman jokes for years since he retired from the Tonight Show.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:04 PM
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165. I Thought That Was Interesting Too
Maybe Johhny didn't like Leno???
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:52 PM
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3. Was he a smoker?
MSNBC headline says emphysema
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muse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:53 PM
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4. Yes, definitely a smoker.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:54 PM
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8. I remember
when Carson use to smoke on camera while hosting the Tonight Show.
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:53 PM
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5. National Equirer had a story not too long ago
about his health being poor.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:58 PM
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16. He said being a smoker was the 'greatest failure in his life'
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:53 PM
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6. Goodnight, Johnny
I watched his show every night from the time I was a teenager until his retirement.

Jay Leno wishes he were anywhere near as talented as Johnny was.

Julie
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:54 PM
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7. What?!? I just heard he was writing for Letterman's show!
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 01:56 PM by Cooley Hurd
Johnny was the best. This is so very sad.:cry:

Rest in Peace, Carnac the Magnificent.:(
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:04 PM
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27. I had just heard this too,
so today's news was surprising. When they were talking about his writing for Letterman, they showed a picture (admittedly didn't say how old pic was), and he looked quite healthy. Very sad. It was a routine growing up with my parents to always watch the Tonight Show w/ Johnny Carson, before going to bed. O8)
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ally_sc Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:57 AM
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147.  i always thought i was the only one who stayed up late
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 06:58 AM by ally_sc
when i was a child with my grandma to see a real king of comedy...it is very, very sad...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:22 PM
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46. I was always hoping he'd give us one more great show...
RIP Johnny! I'm sure that God could use a few laughs right about now...
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:49 AM
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141. Yeah, that story was from last week so I was in shock
when I heard it today. I LOVED Johnny; he was great doing what he did day in and day out for 3 decades.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:54 PM
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9. And he was only 79 n/t
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:08 AM
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154. Life expectancy for a male infant born this year is...
74.7 years. Carson was born in 1926, his expectancy would be younger. He beat the odds by a few years, maybe as much as a decade.

I'll miss you Johnny. There will never be anyone like you. I quit watching late night TV after the you retired. There's a real difference between style and cockiness. You had style.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:54 AM
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156. Had a discussion with hubby last
night about this. He said Carson died of old age. I said he did not - he died of emphysema. Most people could live well past 90, even past 100, if there was no disease.

You also have to calculate early deaths from accidents into that "average" age of death. I believe that any time anyone dies before 85 or 90 years old, it is dying young. :-)

The only person who came close to Johnny Carson on the Tonight Show was Steve Allen, another comic genius.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:54 PM
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10. I just heard this...he's been in poor health for awhile...
RIP Johnny... :cry:

I used to love watching him.... :bye:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:56 PM
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13. They said it was complications
from emphysema. Not very surprising. It's ironic that he's been in the news quite a bit lately.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:54 PM
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11. Just saw Gman's post that was deleted
MSNBC has it right now. It's so sad.
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:55 PM
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12. I watched Carson when I was a kid. Leno was never in his
league. Never.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:14 PM
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42. I grew up watching the likes of Paar, Allen, and Carson
Johnny was the best of all the late night talk shows, even Leno at his best could not match Carson's.

Rest in Peace, Johnny.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #12
75. Is Leno still telling Clinton jokes?
Leno lost me years ago with his stale humor.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:56 PM
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14. That makes me sad...
I believe he quit smoking years ago, but maybe he
took it up again?

Thanks for all the laughs, Johnny.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:22 PM
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45. Even if he quit 40 years ago
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:24 PM by Lorien
he could still die of smoking related illnesses. My grandparents died a few years ago; they were in their late 80s, but the smoking my grandfather had done in his 20s and 30s is what ultimately killed them both (same as Johnny; complications from emphysema).

RIP Johnny. :cry:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:57 PM
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15. leno and conan have never even come close to carson
kind of like carol burnett - she had so much talent -

leno is mean to a lot of his guests
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:00 PM
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20. Carson and Leno
should not be on the same breath. Leno is a hack; Carson was his own man.
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:12 PM
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38. leno
I never have liked leno, especially when my father died in 94.My maiden name was Disco. Leno ran his obituary with the comment "Disco is really dead." My father died tragically. It was a despicable act of cruelty for a few seconds of laughs.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:26 PM
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51. Jeebus, really???
I'm so sorry to hear that - you see him do such things and never think of the real people behind the stories. At least Conan's "Actual Items" are made up...
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:39 PM
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67. yes
The evening after my father's funeral. I will not watch leno to this day.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:46 PM
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90. Sorry to hear that...I've always hated Leno, and I hate him even more
now...
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:58 PM
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104. So sorry to hear. These selfish,
egotistical pigs care about one thing: their ratings or circulation. They give one iota of how their words rip the heart of their subjects.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:14 AM
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155. An error I made at work that almost cost me my job...
...somehow wound up on Leno's show as a subject of national ridicule, too. That feels real good, believe me.

The man is a pompous ass. I won't watch his show.

Contrast that with Carson, whose humor was much gentler, an "I'm laughing with you" brand. We're gradually losing everyone from that school of schtick, though. Now it's all about being mean at others' expense for a laugh.

No more Maudie Frickert. Sigh.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:18 PM
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137. HiOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:01 PM
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77. That is really terrible...
I guess you don't really think about the lives behind those lines. I hope you wrote to him and let him know.
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:49 PM
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101. should have
written him and the network, but was overcome with grief. Don't know if any other family has been subjected to his callousness. Mr. Carson would never ever have done something like that.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:44 PM
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89. Jay Leno is a fucking moron...
I hope you wrote him a nasty letter for that.

I can't think of anyone less funny than he is.
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inslee08 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:00 PM
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179. Oh please
I'm sure if he knew what that joke ("disco is dead") meant, he wouldn't tell it.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:08 PM
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105. I hope you wrote him and let him have it.
Making fun of a person's death to get a cheap laugh is inexcusable and says a lot about Leno's lack of character. I know he still does that kind of stuff. What an unfunny creep.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #38
108. I can't even imagine what it must have been like to hear that
while you were grieving over the death of your father. I never have liked Leno. I quit watching the Tonite Show after Johnny left.

Welcome to DU gademocrat7...:hug:


Rest in Peace, Johnny.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #38
112. I had a classmate named Disco
We graduated just before the music became popular. You have every right to despise Leno.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #38
139. A fellow Georgian must've sent it in.
Also, those newspaper clips are a crutch to his already abhorrent humor.

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:02 PM
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21. I'm not sure about Conan
Conan's humor is more gentle. He doesn't treat guests badly or otherwise ape Leno. I prefer Conan, that's for sure.

We'll miss you, Johnny.

Julie
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:21 PM
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44. conan is nicer than leno but his humor is weird
he does loud and obnoxious - not on guests but in general - yes compared to leno he is better

Johnny was funny - and really good with guests
but at that time I don't remember his show just being a place for stars to promote their pictures

seems now the cost of marketing is being a target from leno
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:10 PM
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166. Hey, watch what you say about Conan!
O'Brien is hysterical and I think comes fairly close to Carson in his heyday. It's just a different time. Letterman is also good and should have taken over after Johnny.

Leno is absolutely worthless. There's nothing charming or funny about that guy. He has no class or charisma at all.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:22 PM
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168. I don't care for Conan and he doesn't even come close to Carson
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 01:22 PM by 0007
on his best day.
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:58 PM
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17. Official web site.... No mention of death yet though.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:59 PM
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18. Augh Shit!!
I didn't watch him much but he was quite a guy.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:59 PM
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19. link. He was great. I loved to watch him
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:22 PM by cal04


Johnny Carson, the "Tonight Show" TV host who served America a smooth nightcap of celebrity banter, droll comedy and heartland charm for 30 years, has died. He was 79.

"Mr. Carson passed away peacefully early Sunday morning," his nephew, Jeff Sotzing, told The Associated Press. "He was surrounded by his family, whose loss will be immeasurable. There will be no memorial service."

Sotzing would not give further details, including the time of death or the location.

The boyish-looking Nebraska native with the disarming grin, who survived every attempt to topple him from his late-night talk show throne, was a star who managed never to distance himself from his audience.

http://www.news4jax.com/entertainment/4121654/detail.html

:(
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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:03 PM
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22. Hey, God: Heeeeeere's Johnny.
We'll miss you much, Johnny.

RIP.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:05 PM
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28. GMTA
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:19 PM
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106. I just watched CNN and Mickey Rooney was speaking.
Mickey said that many of his close friends didn't know how ill he was.

:cry:

This is so sad. Johnny Carson was the BEST talk show host ever.


RIP dear Johnny.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:01 AM
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148. I was thinking the same thing...
with Saint Peter belting out the signature introduction
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:03 PM
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23. Rest In Peace
you have brought me countless hours of pleasure
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:03 PM
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24. Love Carson!
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:04 PM by Pithy Cherub
The orginal best Late night host! I sneaked to watch him after bedtime! Miss you Johnny and thank you for keeping me company so many late nights! :cry:
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:04 PM
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25. This is terrible. He was one of us.
Not only was he a great American, he supported Democrats, was funny as hell, and an all-round class act.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:23 PM
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49. Carson Also Supported The JAMES RANDI EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:29 PM
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57. That's logical
Understandable why there is no memorial service.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:03 AM
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149. Carson started out as a magician
As did Randi. He was on the show a few times in the 1970's, as I recall -- the whole Uri Geller period.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:04 PM
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26. RIP, Johnny ... Hey, God! "Heeeere's Johnny!"
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:04 PM by TahitiNut
Johnny Carson is the only person whose TV show I ever attended as an audience member. It was when he was doing "Who Do You Trust" in NYC ... and it was a ball. I was in the audience in 1962 - a deliberate effort on my part because I regarded him as the next 'great talent' on TV.

We'll miss you, Johnny.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:11 PM
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36. Was that in studio 6B at 30 Rock?
That was his studio while doing the Tonight Show in NYC during the early years. It was also used by Letterman and is now used by Conan (I saw Conan in 6B in 1998).
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:14 PM
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40. No, it was the "Little Theater" off Broadway, as I recall.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:31 PM by TahitiNut
Before he moved to the big time, or NBC. It was an afternoon show (3:30pm) on ABC and the studio was on West 44th, as I recall.

Trivia: The show as originally called "Do You Trust Your Wife?" and was hosted first by Edgar Bergen (Charlie, Mortimer, and Candice's daddy).
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:06 PM
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29. It seems the good they die young....thanks Johnny.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:06 PM
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30. RIP, Johnny
It was always a treat as a kid when my parents would let me stay up late enough to watch his show. :(
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:31 PM
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115. Me too.
As a teen, I was thrilled to see Johnny perform his act live.

In truth, he was more or less going through the motions onstage, but who cared? he was already an icon in the mid-70s, and we laughed at all the jokes we'd already heard.

So long, Johnny. You had one hell of a run, pal.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:07 PM
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31. "Here's That Rainy Day"
The last song he played on his last show.

Thanks for everything,Johnny.

:cry:

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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:07 PM
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32. such a likeable personality- A truly great pioneer-
His style set the stage for all who came after him.
We all benefit in many ways from his efforts.
Loved by so many, often imitated, never duplicated.
RIP Johnny !
great job here on earth !!!!!!!!!!
Thanks from all of us!!!!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:08 PM
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33. Anybody Remember The Show Immediately Following The RFK Assassination ???
Man... one somber, but intelligent show as I recall. Been trying to find info on the Web, but no luck so far.

Anybody here remember that show, the guests, the discussion, etc.???

Goodnight Carnac...

:cry:

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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:30 PM
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58. That show is probably lost for good
I hear that a decade of his early shows was erased because network people didn't think them worth preserving.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:42 PM
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69. Yeah... I Heard That Too !!!
A piece of History, lost to the Ether.

Damn...

Thanks.

:hi:
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:59 PM
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125. Very haunting pic Willy ... RIP Mr. Carson
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 09:38 PM
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129. Don't Know the show, but...
Here an audio link for his (RFK) eulogy
<http://www.historychannel.com/speeches/archive/speech_153.html>
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:08 PM
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34. His genius was in his effortlessness
He was one of a kind. R.I.P. Johnny, and I know you are now with your son.

:cry:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:09 PM
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35. RIP, Johnny
You entertained me many a lonely night. :)
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:11 PM
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37. RIP Johnny
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:12 PM
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39. I have often thought of how great it would be to
see him show up on either Leno or Letterman as a guest.
I am saddened we have lost such a wonderful person.
Some of my finest memories are of my Mom and I staying up late every night and laughing our asses off.
They just do not make them like they use to.
Best show memory:
C. Heston asking if he should tell the audience what Johnny and crew where smoking during a commerical break!
Carson quickly cut him off.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:06 AM
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150. He did Letterman one night
I'm pretty sure it was before Dave moved to CBS. Carson came out to the guest chair with a folding cardboard desk, which he then set up. After the audience was done howling with laughter, Carson told Dave that "In time, you'll understand that this is the only way you can talk to anybody." Or something like that -- probably a lot funnier.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:14 PM
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41. I will truly miss Johnny
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:15 PM
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43. How sad
He was a funny guy. I hope Leno and Letterman do some sort of tribute to him on their shows. After all, Carson gave them both a chance. RIP Johnny Carson.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:22 PM
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47. Letterman most definitely will do a tribute...
From what I've read, Johnny had a small circle of friends, and Dave was one of them. Jay, however, wasn't.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:23 PM
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48. Very sad day
a giant has quietly qone to sleep. He will be remembered forever.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:25 PM
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50. Just after the Letterman thing.
:tinfoilhat:
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:42 PM
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70. what Letterman thing?
?
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:13 PM
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80. Johnny was still writing jokes
Johnny was still writing jokes and passing them on to Letterman according to a news story just last week.

Johnny always considered Letterman to his rightful heir to the "Tonight Show" not Leno.

I would imagine that the reason that Carson was still writing jokes is because the Bush administration gave him so much comedic material.

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:43 PM
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100. Thanks for the info
I wasn't aware of that. I hope this gives Letterman incentive to hammer away more at shrub like Johnny use to slap around "Bedtime for Bonzo Reagan".
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:20 PM
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107. Thats so ironic.
It was so cool to hear that Johnny was writing jokes for Dave.

Man! I haven't cried with a celb died in years. This one is really getting to me.
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:09 PM
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113. I just saw that news item the other day.
Strange timing indeed.

We'll miss you, Johnny.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:26 PM
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52. Why does this news "Break" at such different times?
This just popped up from BBC News as Breaking News.

Why is this happening, any ideas?

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4200385.stm>
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:26 PM
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53. sad, I loved Johnny Carson
I remember seeing the smoke wafting up from his ashtray as they returned from commercial breaks. For a smoker he had a nice long life.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:26 PM
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54. On his last show
Bette Midler sang One For My Baby.

...For all of the years,
For the laughs, for the tears,
For the class that you showed,
Make it one for my baby
And one more for the road.
That long long road.


She cried
He cried
I cried

Safe and peaceful journey, Johnny.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:00 PM
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164. Sigh... It's Monday morning, and that still makes me cry.
Every time they showed that clip last night, I cried. I remember that night when it happened. We cried while watching in bed, one entertainment story I DIDN'T cover because I was out on maternity leave. It was nice just to sit at home and savor it, rather than having to work it.

You said it best, Pastiche - Safe and peaceful journey, Johnny.
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:27 PM
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55. Holy crap!
Rest in peace :(
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:27 PM
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56. RIP Johnny
I had read he's been sick but i was still shocked when i heard the news, i and probably many of you grew up watching him.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:33 PM
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59. I started to cry when I read the news
because Johnny reminds me quite a bit of my dad (who died 3 1/2 years ago) so it brought up the grief I still feel. I loved watching Johnny and sometimes when I still lived at home in the 1980s, Dad and I would watch Johnny together. We both thought he was great.

Rest in Peace, Johnny.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:31 PM
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121. he reminds me of my dad, too
so much part of that generation that's rapidly leaving us.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 11:04 AM
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160. So true
that generation is leaving and it really is leaving a void. I'm in my 40s and it's nothing like I thought it would be. I guess I've always looked to the older generations to lead and frankly, I don't feel grown up enough to the task, lol!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:35 AM
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145. Me too. Isn't that funny...
...that was the one reason my dad would let me stay up late. He died in 1994 at age 61. RIP.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:33 PM
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60. I just read an article about him a couple of days ago...
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:35 PM by Kablooie
Said he wishes he were doing the show nowadays because of all the craziness in politics. He was coming up with a lot of great jokes. Sometimes he would send them to Letterman to use on his show.
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:35 PM
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61. Damn Damn Damn!!
I can't stand losing all these greats!! Johnny made me laugh - I grew up watching his show and then Letterman. I was so mad when Leno took over and put up that ridiculous purple back drop and had such inane schtick. Johnny was class.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:35 PM
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62. Thanks for all the laughs Johnny
Prayers to you
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:36 PM
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63. RIP Johnny
I have missed you since your retirement.

I'll miss Art Fern, Carnac the Magnificent, your wry sense of humor, the special rapport you had with your guests and the animals you would feature from the San Diego Zoo.

May angels sing thee to your rest.

:( :cry:
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:37 PM
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64. On his Tombstone: "I'll be right back".
According to him.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:59 PM
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76. I feel as if my youth/young adulthood just died. How sad!
I used to babysit and the "perk" was staying up to watch Johnny.
As I aged, he became funnier --- duh. But I must say, he carved my sense of humor, the dry, the sarcastic, the almost-British, with a dab of slapstick, or off-the-wall.

Tears.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:09 AM
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151. I think you're right about that
Some of Carson's best jokes were at his own expense, and even when directed at others, his humor was rarely mean-spirited. It's something that lacking in the current generation of comics.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:37 PM
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65. What a loss. He was the best.
RIP, Johnny.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:38 PM
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66. that sucks
dam i`ve seen them all since the beginning of tv and johnny was the best. fare thee well johnny, they are all waiting to be your guest again
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clovis29 Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:41 PM
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68. RIP Carnac!! :(
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:45 PM
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71. Bummer. I grew up watching him. He was a classy guy. Here's a link ...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/23/obit.carson.ap/index.html

Johnny Carson, late-night TV legend, dead at 79
Sunday, January 23, 2005 Posted: 2:25 PM EST (1925 GMT)

Johnny Carson, the "Tonight Show" TV host who served America a smooth nightcap of celebrity banter, droll comedy and heartland charm for 30 years, has died. He was 79.

"Mr. Carson passed away peacefully early Sunday morning," his nephew, Jeff Sotzing, told The Associated Press. "He was surrounded by his family, whose loss will be immeasurable. There will be no memorial service."

Sotzing would not give further details, including the time of death or the location.

The boyish-looking Nebraska native with the disarming grin, who survived every attempt to topple him from his late-night talk show throne, was a star who managed never to distance himself from his audience.

more-
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:46 PM
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72. How very sad. He was the best Tonight show or nightime show in general
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:46 PM by bush_is_wacko
I have ever seen. I'm sure there will NEVER be another like him. I have missed him every time I turned on to watch.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:21 PM
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167. You're certainly correct. There's no sense of "must-see" at 11:30
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 01:25 PM by calimary
anymore. We always stayed up at least through the monologue and the first skit, if not for the guests, depending on who was scheduled. I'm old enough to remember watching some of those shows whose clips are now in the retrospectives - like the one with Dean Martin ashing his cigar in George Gobel's drink, the Joan Embrey animal spots when he got peed on or pooped on or farted at, or the little primate that did the Jack Benny-style "take" that made him throw his head back and roar with laughter, the skit in which Johnny threw Don Rickles into the bathtub. Stuff like that happened all the time on his show. Johnny Carson was SO fast on the uptake. He was NEVER better than in spontaneous reactions to stuff.

I remember one evening my husband and I had been arguing a lot and it had been a rough day and we were both pretty bummed, and his mom called. Her advice was to just set it aside for a little while and "go watch Johnny Carson" - presumably because we'd forget about whatever we'd argued about, and it'd make us feel better. She was, as usual, correct.

I worked at NBC when he was still doing the "Tonight Show." His very presence in the studio was sort of a reassuring thing, as though the king is at home in his castle and all's right with the world. You knew he was in the building, and you'd always take note of his Delorean when it was parked in his special parking place - as you'd walk across to the commissary for a snack. Sometimes if those of us on the same shift got wrapped up at the same time, we'd head over to the upstairs audio booth while the "Tonight Show" taped. There was this little "crow's nest" where you could sit WAY up high at the very tippy-top of the audience, and watch everything. It was always a big thrill - like - "wow! There he is!" When I left NBC, that was one of the biggest things I missed. I missed him when he went off the air. I miss him all over again now.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:29 PM
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175. I miss him too. I never realized how profoundly until I heard of his
death yesterday. It was ALWAYS a huge treat when my parents let me stay up and watch him. I grew up with him and he went off the air the year before my second child was born. I remember a lot of those scenes they are now playing too. There was a really funny one with a snake I will never forget. Johnny and Joan Embrey were always so funny. I remember a lot of the Don Rickles skits, not so many of the Dean Martin stuff. I really haven't watched late night TV much since he went off the air.

Well his friends are right. Right about now God NEEDS a laugh or two that is probably why he called him home.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:57 PM
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178. My second child was just a few days old when Carson said
farewell.

I was too young when the Ed Ames bit ran originally, but for years it was a must-include on every anniversary show. It always made me laugh out loud, even though I was also too young (and, actually, too Catholic) to "get it" for awhile. Took me forever to understand what he meant by "Frontier Bris."
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tmooses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:47 PM
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73. I loved Johnnny Carson. He had a way of making guests feel at ease..
and a gift of genuine humor. I know one of his heroes was Jack Benny and I could see some of the same craft in his delivery. All those late night shows are never on reruns so new generations will never appreciate what a true comic and great guy he was. I'm glad of all those late nights staying up too late to watch Johnny. Godspeed, my friend on journey through eternity. We will miss you.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:52 PM
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74. He was great
I'm glad he's at rest.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:05 PM
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78. You will be missed Johnny!
Thanks for all the memories!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:10 PM
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79. He was a class act.


He will be missed.
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:15 PM
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81. Yes, I agree, he had class.
I bet he wouldn't be doing Clinton blow job jokes.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:18 PM
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82. Wow! Hadn't heard about it with all the news on the snow here.
Just last week, Letterman and Paul Shaffer were doing a "Carnac" type of thing. I'm sure Dave will do a tribute to Johnny this week.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:33 PM
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83. A tragedy. One of the grown-ups from the more civilized era in television
Many times as a kid I stayed up past my bedtime to watch his show, which was witty and conducted with class and aplomb.

Prayers for the family.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:35 PM
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84. Oh, my.
So many nights of my youth spent staying up Far Too Late to watch the monologue and getting suckered into the whole show.

Buddy Hackett and his limericks (which Johnny ALWAYS stopped by cutting to commercial)

Ed Ames and the hatchet.

Don Rickles and the bathtub.

Art Fern, Carnac, Aunt Blabby, and the guy in the earflap hat doing Editorial Replies.

He had a great long run, though. Nobody will ever outdo him.

;( ;( ;(
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:59 PM
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118. Don Rickles was always a scream on the show.
One time Rickles was guest hosting and he broke Johnny's cigarette case that he had on the desk. Johnny took a camera and walked onto Don's set and messed up a live taping of Rickles' sit-com.

One of the many highlights of the Tonite Show.

It's a shame that so many of Johnny's early shows was lost. It was standard practice back in the 1960's to just erase the tapes.

One that I would have loved to see was with The Supremes. Diana, of course has hogging the interview and kept cutting off Mary and Florence. In a pointed reference to how "the girls" had stand ins and there wasn't one for La Ross, Florence finally had and said "Yeah, we tried to get the Virgin Mary but she wasn't available". The crowd loved it. From that moment on, Florence made it clear she wasn't going to sit back and let "Miss Ross" hog the spot light that night.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:49 PM
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123. You hockey puck!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:55 PM
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124. You gotta turn on CNN.
They have an interview from late 2003 with Ed.

There are playing some great clips.

Remember all the animals from the LA Zoo?

Those are classic clips.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:37 PM
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85. Here's Johnny in the afterlife!!!
I cannot believe death will silence my favorite late night talk show host....but here is the joke I think he's telling now....


"Rose Mary Woods died today, same day as I did. You remember she was Nixon's secretary. Her claim to fame was she admitted to erasing 18 1/2 minutes from the President's tape recorder. Her funeral service eulogy contained the missing 18 1/2 minute tape...."
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:42 PM
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86. That is very sad. I had seen a clip on the news the other day where
Carson's people were refuting news that he was very sick. :( Very sad and unexpected.
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:43 PM
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87. Good grief, I will miss him...
the Tonight Show hasn't been the same since he left in 92. I taped the last show and recently picked up the CD of all the past shows. He was class personified. No one did it better than Johnny, no one. Rest in Peace, Johnny.
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JGold9472 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:44 PM
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88. Rest In Peace Johnny
Thank for the memories.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:49 PM
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91. some pics /Newsday
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 03:51 PM by cal04
Thank you Johnny Carson for years of great TV

click on photos at the bottom of his picture

http://www.nynewsday.com/

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Cherie59 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:05 PM
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92. God Bless you Johnny, rest in peace.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:06 PM
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93. Johnny was also a good person who gave to good causes
He gave an enormous amount of money ($150 million, I think) to establish a regional cancer center in Norfolk, Nebraska. I could be wrong about the amount (going on memory is always tricky with me) but I know it's state-of-the-art because my mother told me about it. She unfortunately was diagnosed with breast cancer last spring. This year, however, we are happy to have my mother alive, well and cancer-free--thanks in no small part to Johnny's gift.

Having grown up in Nebraska (I've lived in NJ all of my adult life), I have other memories of Johnny. I recall producing television commercials in the same TV studio where he got his start.

Thanks, Johnny. We will miss you.

:cry:


Cher


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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:21 PM
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96. the late Carl Sagan also gave Johnny Carson a lot of credit ...
He said that if Johnny hadn't invited him to be on the show so many times, he wouldn't have had as much success with popularizing science, particularly astronomy. Johnny Carson really set an example, by wanting to show the audience that looking at planets and stars was interesting and cool.

That's great news about your mother, and the cancer center! What a wonderful legacy for him to have left behind!
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:16 PM
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94. God this makes me sad.
I feel as though I lost a member of my family. He was the King of Late Night TV.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:18 PM
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95. Rest in peave Johnny
:(
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:38 PM
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97. You can see the Ed Ames tomahawk clip on Johnny's web site
Laughing through tears.

RIP, Johnny.

Bake
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:40 PM
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98. Bless You Johnny
You were a class act all the way and the king of the reaction shot!
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Harry S Truman Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:42 PM
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99. A great man....
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 04:42 PM by Harry S Truman
and one of the finest interviewers in TV history. He never stepped all over a guest's answers. And his role as a devoted astronomer who gave Dr. Carl Sagan the "Tonight" TV platform for real science was outstanding. Thanks, Johnny. You were the best.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:51 PM
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102. Its impossible to say how much I loved him. What terrible news.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:52 PM
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103. JC is responsible for my lifelong insomnia!
As a young child I would finagle my way to stay up and watch Johnny. I could not sleep until I had my nightly fix! Wonderful man, sweet funny smart soul. May he rest in peace!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:50 PM
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109. R.I.P. Johnny. The nite owl in me mourns his passing.
Made me laugh as a pre-teen, teen and adult.


Drumming with pencils on the desk.....JC was a cool cat.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:55 PM
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110. link to article from NY Times
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:01 PM
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111. Johnny Carson
was the best in the business - he was fall down funny. None of the pretenders has come close to that classy man.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:11 PM
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114. That is very sad news. Another light burns out.
He gave joy and laughter to many.

He will be missed.
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tonekat Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:39 PM
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116. The man who defined late night talk shows is gone
I can remember the first night I got to stay up late enough to watch the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson...here was a whole other world of television. It was like getting an invitation to a really good party. I had to see it every night!

He could be just subversive enough in his humor without hitting you over the head with it.

Some of the little things he did on the show would give Michael Powell a heart attack today. Remember during the monologue once during the 70s when he tried to make the overhead mic cable longer by stroking it with his fist?

Some actors turned into different people when they were on the Tonight Show. Who guessed Burt Reynolds could be so funny when sitting next to Johnny?

It was such a disappointment to see the Tonight Show go to Leno, who immediately changed the tone of the show to "Joe 6-Pack" humor, with no subtlety whatsoever.

I was glad to learn yesterday of Carson sending jokes to Letterman, who at the time was the true heir apparent of the Tonight Show.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:14 AM
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153. Guest Hosts
One of my favorite features of the Carson Show was the use of guest hosts rather than repeats. It gave people (like Letterman) and chance to get some serious exposure -- and I always remember being surprised at how some celebrities were really good (and some pretty dreadful) at filling his chair.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:51 PM
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117. The King is dead. Long live the King.
Pax Johnny.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:11 PM
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119. Johnny's Gift To Me: JAZZ!
As a teenager I frequented the Tonight Show tapings and fell in love with the band between the breaks. Johnny was THE big jazz booster -- when all my friends were listening to Cheap Trick I was listening also to Ella, Buddy Rich, Peggy Lee and others that I learned about from Johnny, I've been following jazz since then. THANKS JOHNNY!
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:23 PM
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120. Rest In Peace Johnny,
Thank you for all the laughs and being such a good person.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:45 PM
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122. It's a sad day in America. The King is dead.
God rest his soul.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:25 PM
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126. He was forced into retirement by Leno's manager
Helen Kushnick, who pressured NBC to retire Johnny because she wanted her boy Jay to have that show.

I haven't seen any word so far from Jay.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:46 PM
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127. I'm heartbroken.
No one has made me laugh more than Johnny Carson. I never missed a show and if they were on in repeats, I'd be watching them today.
I loved that man with all my heart and I'm so sad to hear of his passing. Even when the jokes or the skit or the guest bombed, Johnny found a way to make us roar with laughter. He was one of a kind. There will never be another like him. He was, and will always be one of the happiest memories of my life.

Rest in Peace Johnny. And thank you for every single, precious moment you shared with us. You will never be forgotten. :cry:


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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 09:48 PM
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130. Carson gave me some laughs at the blood bank
I donate platelets, and that requires being connected to a machine which filters the platelets from the bloodstream for a couple of hours. The platelets are used for patients who need them for blood diseases and other disorders

During the donation process, the blood bank has video players and show movies to keep us entertained.

My last appointment, I elected to watch Johnny Carson, from the time he appeared on the Tonight Show. That was a good video, and it had clips from his history such as the Tomahawk routine, Tiny Tim's wedding, Carnac, the San Diego Zoo critters, etc. Well it was good and it made my donation time seem rather short.

If there was one thing Johnny Carson did for me was turn me on to visiting the San Diego Zoo to see the critters....
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 11:06 AM
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162. I posted a link to this very video here:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:47 PM
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128. :(
I really liked the man. He popped in my mind out of the blue the other morning while I was making my bed (and it's not like I think of TV personalities first thing in the morning...). I was reminiscing how the world was back when Johnny Carson was late night TV and wondering what kind of memorial they would have on the tube when he passed. Surreal. How very sad.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:00 PM
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131. Funny, funny fucker.
I watched as he took over from Jack Paar. Thanks, Johnny, for the laughs.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:05 PM
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132. a major Icon in the media
a true class act that will be missed.

We now have to wait for Conan O'Brien to take over. Then integrity will return to The Tonight Show.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:43 PM
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170. Sorry, Conan can't even begin to touch the beads of his Carnac turban.
None of 'em can.

Jon Stewart and David Letterman just barely get inside the ballpark.

I saw this among the New York Times reader comments:


mr.tj - 9:49 PM ET January 23, 2005 (#43 of 126)

If there's a heaven, St. Peter just said, "Hereeeeeeee's Johnny"
Comparing Carson with Leno and Letterman is equal to comparing a fine cut of filet mignon to a couple of wieners (sorry, no offence, Jay and David, but it's true).

http://forums.nytimes.com/top/opinion/readersopinions/forums/arts/johnnycarson/index.html?offset=0
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:49 PM
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133. I miss him already
What a day...
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BensMom Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:52 PM
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134. Omaha Newspaper...
Here is a good article from the Omaha newspaper.
There goes a very giving person.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1458&u_sid=1317351
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:55 PM
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135. A class Act
When Johnny Carson retired, he stayed retired. No endless begging for attention. Funny Guy and a great show. When I was a kid in High School, playing Trumpet, my buds and I always thought it would be great to play in the Tonight Show Orchestra with Doc Sevrensen, steady gig, lots of laughs.
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:15 PM
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136. Ironic watching a tribute to Steve Martin on AMC...
the day carson died.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:21 PM
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138. Johnny was the king of late night
No one else has come close.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:39 AM
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140. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
:cry:
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BTFSTL Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:05 AM
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142. Truly the King of Late Night
Johnny Carson never failed to get me laughing in his monolouges. Everyone was fair game to Johnny, yet his humor never was mean. Oh sure, the jokes sometimes bombed, but you knew he had his heart in the right place.

And who could forget those Mighty Carson Art Players - not just Carnac the Magnificent, but Art Fern, host of Tea Time Movie (with Carol Wayne - sadly, also gone - as The Matinee Lady).

Anyone remember the usual schtick - a commercial where there's a map of the LA freeways heading to the Schlaussen Cutoff - where you cut off your Schlaussen? And then you go this way until you come to - everyone - The Fork In The Road!!

Even if you knew it by heart, it was still hilarious.

Class guy all the way. No one comes close, not even Dave, as great as he is.

RIP Johnny. Hope you have a lot of good folks for the couch on tonight's show in heaven.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:25 AM
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143. yes I loved the LA freeway map schtick, no matter how many
timnes he did it. It seemed funnier each time, just like Art Fern, Carnak, and the rest of the skits. He basically trained the audience over the decades as they knew the jokes that would be coming and they were still going to laugh like hell.

Would you believe I saw the original LIVE show (not taped, like his later shows) where the ax got thrown at the cardboard man by Ed Ames? One of the late nights in school where I would sneak back out of bed as a kid to watch Carson.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 02:33 AM
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144. You made it look easy. n/t
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:35 AM
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146. Carnac Kick...
...for those who have been hibernating since Saturday night.
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:12 AM
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152. I .. I did not know that, Ed did you know that?
that is some weird wacky stuff

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:15 AM
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157. He was probably the last person who could "make" a star
It's amazing how many times in the 70s and 80s and even the 90s that you would go to school or work the next day and someone would say, "Did you see that comedian on The Tonight Show?" And we all learned the trick that if Johnny invited them to sit down afterwards, they had made it. Leno, Letterman, Williams, Crystal, Tim Allen, Roseanne, Eddie Murphy, Joan Rivers, Gary Shandling, George Carlin...the list is endless and they all owe Johnny.

His best interaction with a comedian thought was probably with Dangerfield, who would sit on the couch and just burn through two or three dozen jokes while Johnny fed him straight lines. The story I like the best though is the night that Rodney and Johnny did their bit and it became obvious that Rodney had run out of jokes before the segment was over. So, Rodney leaned back and calmly asked, "So how have you been?" Carson lost it.

I love Letterman, but he always seems paranoid when another comedian is on - unlees it's some established star - as if the guest might be funnier than the host. Johnny never cared who got the laughs. I think that is the difference between him and the hosts today. Conan is the only one who seems willing to let the guest be funny on their own. Neither Letterman or Leno have guest hosts for a reason.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:16 AM
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158. NYTimes obit is beautiful
Touching on all his aspects as an entertainer and comedian, including this classic moment:

...in 1963, when one of Mr. Carson's guests was Ed Ames, an actor-singer who played an Indian on the television series "Daniel Boone." Mr. Ames was there to teach Mr. Carson how to throw a tomahawk, and he brought along a cardboard image of a sheriff as a target. In his demonstration, Mr. Ames threw the tomahawk across the stage, and it imbedded itself deeply in the sheriff's crotch. The audience was in an uproar; people were literally falling out of their seats with laughter.

When Mr. Ames went to remove the tomahawk, Mr. Carson held his arm and the uncontrolled laughter commenced anew. As the laughter subsided, Mr. Carson looked at Mr. Ames and said, "I didn't know you were Jewish."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/23/arts/television/23cnd-carson.html?hp=&oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:46 AM
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159. Link to a best of Carson video here
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 11:05 AM
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161. My email to his website - info@johnnycarson.com
I loved Johnny Carson. He reminded me of my father. He was kind, gentle, and oh so funny! His timing, facial expressions, and sense of what was funny is unsurpassed, even to this day. He was the greatest television entertainer of all times, bar none. I watched him every night from about 12 years old, until his retirement in 1992. I'm so disappointed that we never had another chance to hear him and cheer him.

John will be so very missed.

Rest in peace, oh great one.

<my name>


PS: to God..... Heeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeee's Johnny!!
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 12:41 PM
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163. Kick...........................
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:33 PM
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169. I'll never forget that interview with Arnold Palmer's wife
just before a big golf tournament. Johnny Carson ask her if there was anything she did to bring her husband good luck. She replied, I kiss his balls. There was a moment of silence and then Carson said, "I bet that makes his putter stand up" The show was sued for a ton of money.
It was the funniest thing I'd ever heard on TV at that time. I believe it was 1960.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:03 PM
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171. Not according to Snopes
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:35 PM
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174. That is indeed strange! Run down the law suit
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:09 AM
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180. Sued for a ton of money?
Ya mean Michael Powell was doing child labor at the FCC?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:16 PM
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172. It's like a national wake.
Kick.

In a way, I'm glad Johnny's gone - so he won't have to see how much farther george washes us down the drain.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:18 PM
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173. was he a democrat?
because I couldn't stand him.

I'm sorry he died, but the greatest thing he ever did in my eyes was re-the-fuck-tire.

I thought he was a schmoozy schmuck chauvinist whose brand of humor went out of style with Laugh-In and The Smothers Brothers. I hate this whole style of everything, this style of commedy, this style of news reporting (gray-haired white male perspective otherwise known as the center of the universe), I just hate this style of everything.

I guess he must have been a democrat the way everyone here is going on so. I guess this post would be more appropriate for his retirement than for his death, I'm not glad he's dead, I just don't think that his type of behavior, the white male p.o.v. monopoly, should be perpetuated.

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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:17 AM
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181. I never saw any of those things in JC. Are you sure you ever watched ?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:58 PM
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176. Beat his wife for the unforgivable crime of rearranging his library.
What a sweet guy.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:39 AM
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182. I'd like a link for that one!
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