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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:52 AM
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U.S. May Give EU Till June to Coax Iran on Nukes
In its drive to stop Iran gaining any ability to make nuclear weapons, the United States is ready to give European allies only until June to cajole Tehran before Washington seeks U.N. sanctions, U.S. diplomatic documents show.

Washington will not push the International Atomic Energy Agency board to refer Iran's case to the Security Council when it meets next week and no resolutions condemning the Islamic republic are expected to be adopted then, diplomats on the 35-nation board told Reuters.

But the next quarterly meeting in June will be different.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2005/02/25/us_may_give_eu_till_june_to_coax_iran_on_nukes/

from several days ago...
SCOTT RITTER SAYS U.S. PLANS JUNE ATTACK ON IRAN, ‘COOKED’ JAN. 30 IRAQI ELECTION RESULTS
http://www.ufppc.org/content/view/2295
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:55 AM
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1. Someone else mentioned the attack would be in june
am i not remembering right?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:06 AM
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4. Scott Ritter.
My poor brother who just got activated hasn't a clue what he's in for,...and neither does the rest of my family. I've told them repeatedly about this administration's plans to control the M.E. but they just deny, deny, deny.

Why does anyone doubt whether this neoCON administration is going ALL THE WAY on their PNAC agenda? Too few forces? So what? Anyone believe that these folks won't take the power they have wielded unto themselves and USE IT to increase the military head count?

What is stopping the neoCONspirators from fully implementing their plans? What?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:14 AM
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6. Americans?
Oh, wait...that won't happen.

The Media?

Nope. They don't do anything

The Congress?

Oops. We're screwed.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:58 AM
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2. World to Bush...
"Go to hell you idiot cowboy."

Bush is bluffing. We don't have the manpower to invade Iran, and Iran isn't an Iraq. There will be even stiffer resistance with many more deaths. Also, the Bushies know that Europe will not help this time so we are on our own. The repercussions could be immense if we invade Iran. Other world countries could start dumping the dollar at a greater rate which would send our economy into a recession spiral.

This administration is the worst thing to happen to international relations in many years.

And Americans continue to sit around wondering about Michael Jackson's trial.

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:16 AM
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7. What I fear is there will be a draft in the next few months. This
administration is hell bent on conquering the world. It is so out of control now I don't know if we can do anything about it. It is totally insane to think we can fight the war on "terrorism" alone. Of course we started it. The events of 9/11 were monstrous, but bin Laden is still out there. He doesn't need to do anything but sit back and watch us self-destruct.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:25 AM
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8. Setting foreign relations back over 150 years! n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:58 AM
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13. Attack
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 12:13 PM by mmonk
has always been in the plans. The bases in Iraq are forward bases. We're to spread democracy (global hegemony). There aren't enough troops to secure Iraq, but we're there. Besides, the Israelis can attack.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:22 PM
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20. An attack and an invasion...
...are two different things. At this point, I would guess that the Pentagon is working up a plan for air strikes on the assumption that Iran's response will be similar to that of Iraq in 1981--diplomatic outrage--and that Iran will not contemplate either war or revenge for the destruction of their main reactor at Bushehr.

However, that depends upon popular reaction inside Iran. Despite the divisions inside Iran today, such an attack could spark a new wave of nationalism, rally even the young around the mullahs, and Iran could conceivably entertain a border war with US forces in Iraq, drawing troops away from defensive positions around Iraq. This, I think, is doubtful, though, because the US still has significant air superiority.

As with the Israeli attack on Iraq's reactor in 1981, the US will try to describe the Iranians' start-up of their reactor as an imminent danger to peace in the region. For that reason, there's a good chance that the US will look the other way while Israel bombs Bushehr, with perhaps the chance of US aircraft bombing other facilities concurrently or shortly afterwards. Iran probably would not chance a retaliatory attack on Israel, if only because they would have to fly over Syrian air space to do it--and their F-4s and F-15s probably don't have the range for that.

All that said, there are a dozen ways in which such an attack could create an escalation to war, and if the Iranians did something by way of retaliation to invite that escalation, Bush would undoubtedly be able to stir up public sentiment for an invasion, whether there is troop strength enough or not.

June, however, may be optimistic. Russia has announced it plans to go ahead with delivery of fuel rods to Iran, and will finalize the delivery schedule in meetings in Teheran the end of this month. If either the Israelis or the US bomb the reactor after start-up, they become the war criminals in the eyes of the world, not Iran.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:34 PM
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23. Air strikes, then...god knows what-all hell would break loose
the U.S. cannot accurately, or even 'close to' locate the (quite possible)deep underground nuke positions, we don't have enough troops, Iran is good buddies with russia and china and Iran is definitely not Iraq. bush & company are insane and fully committed to getting their armageddon on.
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:39 PM
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26. Well, we have at least 45-52% (depending on how you look at it)
of the population to thank. These scum should have never gotten that much of a popular vote.

We reap what we sow.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:58 AM
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3. Looks like Scott was right again....
They are planning to attack Iraq in June. This statement is a trial baloon to start getting us used to the idea.

What we will hear from BushCo Inc. in June:

"Europe had its chance to use diplomacy to stop the Iranians from developing WMDs, and failed. Its now up to the US to save the world from this gathering threat....blah blah blah"
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:13 AM
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5. ALLTHE MORE REASON TO HAVE MASSIVE ANTI-WAR
PROTESTS MARCH 19-20.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:01 AM
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9. Empty threats, go ahead, ask for sanctions, you won't get them. nt
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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:19 AM
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10. . . . or the U.S. Will Start Bombing Brussels?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:41 AM
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11. What an unsurprise.
We need to get rid of these guys.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:44 AM
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12. Better make Memorial Day your big summer holiday
and fill up your gas tank on May 31st.

Post-atttack oil will be >$60 a barrel and gas at the pump will be >$3 a gallon...
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:02 PM
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18. Start buying up oil stocks too.....
nt
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 12:00 PM
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14. Ritter is right again
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 12:53 PM
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15. Deja vu
Could this be the nightmare coming true?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 12:56 PM
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16. What a Birthday present an Iran Invasion, thank you President Scrooge.
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:02 PM
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17. June is when they commence bombing...
The ultimatum is just a formailty. It's going to happen, Period. Better stock up on duct tape. Quack! Quack!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:17 PM
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19. * probably thinks this will help the economy too...
Just nuke the world into a cinder now and be done with it. x(
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:24 PM
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21. It will help HIS economy
and those of his defense/oil fellowship goons
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:26 PM
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22. I think that means LIHOP #2 is coming in late May
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 01:26 PM by tom_paine
:scared: :grr:

(get your heads down, San Franciscans, I think the Busheviks and their Pals are coming after you this time)
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:37 PM
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24. Well, in order to have the manpower to support such a thing...
the draft has to be (quietly) reinstated by April 15.

That would put LIHOP2 around the first or second week of April.
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:37 PM
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25. As the Church Lady would say, "How con-veeeenient".
It so happens that June is about the time the bombs start falling over Teheran.
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