Jet owned by part owner of Red Sox tied to US (connect. to Rendition)

[Rose Siding]

WASHINGTON -- A Gulfstream jet owned by a part owner of the Boston Red Sox is also used by the US government for missions around the world.
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The jet, which used registration number N85VM and now uses N227SV, was spotted in Cairo on Feb. 18, 2003, shortly after a suspected extremist preacher disappeared from his home in Milan in a case that Italian prosecutors are investigating as a kidnapping, according to the Chicago Tribune, which first reported the plane's unusual flight history.
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Among the other part-owners of the Red Sox is The New York Times Co., which owns the Globe.

Between June 2002 and January of this year, the plane has flown to Afghanistan, Morocco, Dubai, Jordan, Italy, Japan, Switzerland, Azerbaijan, and the Czech Republic, and made 82 visits to Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C., according to the Chicago Tribune, which cited records from the Federal Aviation Administration.

The plane is owned by Assembly Pointe Aviation Inc, according to records from the Federal Aviation Administration.
Morse is the sole officer of Assembly Pointe Aviation.

When the plane flies for Morse, it sports the Red Sox logo on the tail, but the logo is masked for most government missions, Richards said. ''He loves the team and he loves to advertise them," Richards said. ''When the plane goes out of the country, we cover it up."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/03/20/jet_owned_by_part_owner_of_red_sox_tied_to_us/

[Ready4Change]

1. It's possible/likely the Red Sox have no knowlege.

Many corporations share ownership and use of high end business jets. The things are expensive, and if a corporation can't use it 24/7 then is just sits there, leaking money. By sharing it, they get more jet for their money, and can often "afford" a much more capable aircraft.

During the times a corporation doesn't "have" the jet, they likely have no information on what it is being used for.

OTOH, I'm not aware of whether the US Gov. is allowed to share use with corporations. Seems there could be some eithical questions there. Anyone more knowlegable on that side of the coin?

[reprobate]

2. The 'ethical questions' regard kidnapping and torture.

It's been an open secret, reported by several that US CIA uses corporate jet to kidnap suspected terror connected subjects and deliver them to foreign countries that don't have any quams on torturing to extract information.

If you have any ethical questions they should be directed at this. Since when has America been the one to torture. I thought we were the ones to uphold the Rule of Law.

[Ready4Change]

9. 2 separate ethical points.

Regarding torture, there is no question in my mind. We (the US) should not be in the torture business, and we should not "farm out" that business to other countries. Not only is it unethical, it is also falsely productive, in that you can't trust the information it provides.

The ethical question I was originally referencing regarded the US Gov. share/leasing a business jet with corporations. As I mentioned, a sharing agreement allows both parties to operate more cheaply, or to operate a more capable, or lavish, jet than would otherwise be possible. This raises a question of how the lease/share was arranged, was it a perk for corporate sponsors of campaigns, will Gov. personel travelling on this jet be strongly influences by the other partners in the jet, etc...

Thanks for the chance to clarify my question.

[starwolf]

4. Most biz jets are leased

and sub leased. Gains some financial advantages and helps pay for the costs.

[w4rma]

5. So a CIA front firm leesed the jet and used it for black ops. (nt)

[starwolf]

6. That actually makes sense that they would

[jus_the_facts]

3. Ahhhha....the BoSox Evil Empire...hmmmm...

....couldn't resist. :nopity:

[TayTay]

7. Good one n/t

[RedSock]

8. Main link -- Chicago Tribune

Here 'tis:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0503200504mar20,1,7955088.story?coll=chi-news-hed

[daleo]

10. So, a jet part owned by the major mainstream media source in U.S. (NYT)

Was being used by U.S. Intelligence to secretly fly people to foreign locations, to be tortured. Unfortunately, this doesn't really surprise me.

[Moderator]

11. kick to combine

[paineinthearse]

12. Boston Red Sox Plane Flies Through Shannon on way to Guantanamo

I didn't know to post this in SPORTS or MASSACHUSETTS or POLITICS, but since it is new I'll post it in LBN and let the mods decide. This is a continuation of the CIA torture plane story, with a Red Sox twist. Maybe this is why Schilling has been so cozy with *????

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http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69050



Boston Red Sox Plane Flies Through Shannon on way to Guantanamo
by redjade Sunday, Mar 20 2005, 5:12pm
national / anti-war / other press

How weird can this story get?!

Quote: 'The Red Sox logo was visible, for example, in photos taken at an air show in Schenectady, N.Y., on Aug. 23, 2003, eight days after the Gulfstream returned to Washington from an around-the-world flight that included Anchorage; Osaka, Japan; Dubai; and Shannon.

The logo was not visible when the Gulfstream was photographed during a fuel stop in Shannon on June 12, 2004.' Ireland closer to Boston than Berlin? Yep.

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Jet's Travels Cloaked in Mystery

by John Crewdson and Tom Hundley
the Knight-Ridder Tribune Newspaers

(KRT) - Last June, the Boston Red Sox chartered an executive jet to help their manager make a quick visit home in the midst of the team's championship season. But what was the very same Gulfstream - owned by one of the Red Sox's partners, but presumably without the team's logo on its fuselage - doing in Cairo on Feb. 18, 2003? Perhaps by coincidence, Feb. 18, 2003, was the day an Islamic preacher known as Abu Omar, who had been abducted in Italy the previous day and forced aboard a small plane, also arrived at the Cairo airport. Omar, whose given name is Osama Nasr Mostafa Hassan, was imprisoned by the Egyptians and, he claims, brutally tortured.

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But Federal Aviation Administration records obtained by the Chicago Tribune show that Gulfstream N85VM has been many places around the world that the Red Sox have almost certainly never gone. Between June 2002 and January of this year, the Gulfstream made 51 visits to Guantanamo, Cuba, site of the U.S. naval base where more than 500 terrorism suspects are behind bars. A week later the Gulfstream was back in Washington, D.C., headed for Shannon, Ireland.

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The Red Sox logo was visible, for example, in photos taken at an air show in Schenectady, N.Y., on Aug. 23, 2003, eight days after the Gulfstream returned to Washington from an around-the-world flight that included Anchorage; Osaka, Japan; Dubai; and Shannon. The logo was not visible when the Gulfstream was photographed during a fuel stop in Shannon on June 12, 2004. But when the plane turned up at Denver's Centennial Airport in February of this year, a photo showed it was sporting not only the Sox logo but a new registration number, N227SV.

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FAA records do show, however, that at 4:19 a.m. local time on Feb. 18, 2003, the Gulfstream was on the ground at HECA, the designation for Cairo International Airport, with a flight plan for a return to Dulles with a fuel stop in Shannon.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0320-04.htm

[WindRavenX]

13. WTF?

.....this is bizzare beyond anything.
Thank goodness I'm a Yankees fan...

[autorank]

14. Take their pennant. I wanna hear them really bitch and moan.

They're really good at it.

Oops, pitcher on roids, have to take your pennant back.

[WindRavenX]

16. What, you don't think Schilling is an inspiration to all?

:P

[autorank]

18. Yeah, I really liked it when he endorsed *. I saw him at the hearings

and man is that guy cut. Never paid attention to him before but he's got that pumped, filled in, tear your car door off look. What a guy.:puke:

[sasquatch]

17. He claims it was "Snake Venom" though that made him good

[autorank]

19. And the snakes name was "Andro".

[WindRavenX]

20. seriously?

........:crazy:

[sasquatch]

21. Google: Snakehandling christians

You'll get the joke.

[sasquatch]

15. As long as they torture Alex Rodrigez, I'm cool

:silly:

[OneBlueSky]

22. was Curt Schilling in the cockpit? . . . at the controls? . . .

maybe this business about him not being ready for the season opener is just a ruse . . . to give him time to fly his torture missions . . .

hey . . . it could happen . . . :shrug:

[paineinthearse]

23. * 43

See "Red Sox sink from world champs to bush league" in the Massachusetts forum - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=158x3478

[user]

25. bush league

shilling is a P.O.S. I hope his foot falls off send him back where he belongs another AZ. asshole.

[paineinthearse]

26. user

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[paineinthearse]

24. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0320-04.htm

Read the entire commondreams article. Very, very bizaar.

[paineinthearse]

27. Prior information

US accused of 'torture flights', Times Newspapers Ltd., November 14, 2004 - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1357699,00.html

Mysterious Jet Tied to Torture Flights... N379P The US Torture Plane. According to federal records, Bayard Foreign Marketing is the newest owner of a US-registered Gulfstream V executive jet reportedly ...
www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0108-06.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages


The Blue Lemur - Progressive Politics and Media News » ‘Torture ...... to airport officials, public documents and hobbyist plane spotters, the Gulfstream V, with tail ... he said, is prohibited by the UN Convention on Torture. ...
www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=516 - 34k - Feb 18, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages


Boing Boing: Torture Jet: is this the CIA's "ghost" plane?... in foreign countries known to subject prisoners to torture. ... purchased or leased the new Gulfstream V in ... The plane's original registration number, N581GA, would ...
www.boingboing.net/2005/01/11/torture_jet_is_this_.html - 21k - Feb 18, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages


CollegeSlackers.com -> The Torture Plane... to skies Elusive owner’s jet linked to CIA, torture. ... Intelligence Agency has declined to discuss the plane. ... said that he understood the Gulfstream had been ...
www.collegeslackers.com/forum/ index.php?showtopic=5434&view=getlastpost - 64k - Cached - Similar pages


The Torture Jet... Gulfstream V Turbojet used by the torture gang. The airplane is a Gulfstream V turbojet, the sort ... The plane's owner of record, Premier Executive Transport ...
www.president-bush.com/torture-jet.html - 12k - Feb 18, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages


The Australian: Private jet takes men for 'torture' www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/ story_page/0,5744,11387412%255E2703,00.html - Similar pages


The Command TOC: The Torture Gulfstream... We tortured them. Now we wonder why the average citizen hates us. And now the Gulfstream Torture Plane. Wow, we have come a long way. ...
home.earthlink.net/~kevin.omeara/ 2004/12/torture-gulfstream.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages


Chicago Tribune | Mysterious jet tied to torture flights... al-Zery, were flown aboard the Gulfstream from Sweden's ... that a check of the plane's registration number ... an international investigation into the torture charges. ...
www.chicagotribune.com/.../chi-0501080192jan08,1,192118... story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true - Similar pages


WARCRIME: CIA's Torture Airline: Exporting Suspects to Be Tortured... he said, is prohibited by the UN Convention on Torture. ... Over the past year, the Gulfstream V's flights have been tracked by plane spotters standing at ...
www.talkaboutgovernment.com/group/ alt.politics.europe.misc/messages/49174.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

& 9 more pages......

[paineinthearse]

28. the other Massachusetts connection

This is a second Gulfstream airplane tied to CIA torture. See Times story above.

From the Secretary of the Commonwealth's public records of foreign corporations: http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchS...

The exact name of the Foreign Corporation:
PREMIER EXECUTIVE TRANSPORT SERVICES, INC.

Entity Type: Foreign Corporation

Identification Number: 521857292

Old Federal Employer Identification Number (Old FEIN): 000000000

Date of Registration in Massachusetts: 10/23/1996

The is organized under the laws of: State: DE Country: USA on: 01/10/1994

Current Fiscal Month / Day: 07 / 31
Previous Fiscal Month / Day: 00 / 00

The location of its principal office: No. and Street:
HILL & PLAKIAS, P.C. 339 WASHINGTON ST., STE 202
City or Town: DEDHAM State: MA Zip: 02026 Country: USA

The location of its Massachusetts office, if any: No. and Street:

City or Town: State: Zip: Country:

The name and address of the Registered Agent:
Name: HILL & PLAKIAS, P.C.
No. and Street: 339 WASHINGTON ST., STE 202,
City or Town: DEDHAM State: MA Zip: 02026 Country: USA

The officers and all of the directors of the corporation:

Title Individual Name First, Middle, Last, Suffix Address (no PO Box) Address, City or Town, State, Zip Code Expiration of Term

PRESIDENT BRYAN P. DYESS
339 WASHINGTON ST., SUITE 202, DEDHAM, MA 02026 USA

TREASURER MARY ANNE PHISTER
339 WASHINGTON ST., SUITE 202, DEDHAM, MA 02026 USA