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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:57 PM
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Bush to Address Nation on Pope's Death
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 04:13 PM by cal04
Bush to Address Nation on Pope's Death, Orders That Flags Over White House Fly at Half-Staff

Bush planned to speak at the White House not even 90 minutes after the death of the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. The pope died at 2:37 p.m. EST in his Vatican apartment.

Hours earlier, in his weekly radio address, Bush spoke of John Paul as "a faithful servant of God and a champion of human dignity and freedom."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=635757&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
President Bush Comments on
Pope John Paul II -- 4pm ET LIVE
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM
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1. O.....M......F.....G...... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! N/T
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:39 AM
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64. My Thought Exactly n/t
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM
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2. LOL Bush just didn't
listen to him.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:59 PM
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Big deal - this has been posted twice already
Jiminy crickets - calm the fuck down people :eyes:
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:59 PM
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3. The amount I care is measured in micro-givashits
Why would anyone care what Bush had to say about the Pope's death?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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7. "micro-givashits"???
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:02 PM
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13. yes... absolutely... thats
1/1,000,000th of a givashit
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM
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17. That is a new one and I want to keep it! "MICRO GIVASHITS"!
I love it. Thank you for your so special perspective on this so sensitive issue.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:45 PM
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53. My thought exactly...
I'm LMAO on that one. I wrote it down for future use! :-)
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:33 PM
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51. Actually, I'm thinking of pico-givashits. 10 picometers is the scale
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 09:36 PM by VegasWolf
of the innermost shell of electrons of an atom.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:56 PM
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58. GREAT one! Like I should care what his take is on this event?
Like I should care to hear anything from that pathetic pip-squeak? george, you couldn't touch the hem of the garment of JP2. I will always have a special place in my heart for His Holiness - for having been one of the few to really put bush in his place.

To you, george, STFU. Who cares what you think?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:59 PM
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4. Bush should quote the Pope's warning about Iraq!
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 04:13 PM by IndianaGreen
If the US and the UK invade Iraq, the Pope warned, they will do so without G-d!

On edit, here is the reference:

Pope to Bush: Go into Iraq and You Go Without God
Wednesday 5 March 2003


Pope John Paul II has a strong message for President George W. Bush: God is not on your side if you invade Iraq. But the President told the pope's envoy the leader of the world's Catholics is wrong.

Pleading for peace, an emissary from Pope John Paul II questioned Bush Wednesday on whether he was doing all he could to avert what the envoy called an "unjust" war with Iraq.

<snip>

(Cardinal) Laghi came bearing the pope's message: A war would be a "defeat for humanity" and would be neither morally nor legally justified.

The Pope also questioned the President's statements invoking God's name as justification for the invasion.

http://web.sbu.edu/fcsc/pope_to_bush.htm
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:59 PM
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5. As a Catholic
I really don't give a damn what this protestant Fundy fraud has to say about a man who he by very nature of his religious doctrine and belief holds the Pope to be an impostor and an affront to scriptures.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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6. Yup. Just keep pandering to the religious George. They love ya'
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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8. Maybe he will publicly repent for going to Bob Jones
University and consorting with virulent Catholic haters to win a couple of votes in the South Carolina Primary.
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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9. bet you he ties his sorry ass and Terri Shiavo into it ....n/t
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Biology Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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10. He needs those Catholic votes
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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11. Oh dear god help us all!!!!!!!
Please just don't George, let us all rest in some semblance of peace!

NOT YOU!
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM
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12. Hasn't * spoken three times at one of the most anti-Catholic
schools in the country, Bob Jones University?

Hell will freeze over before any of the media whores mention this.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM
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14. Just keep jumping that shark, W -- you tiny little man --
I disagreed with many of this Pope's policies, but he was an extraordinary man, a giant of a man. Unlike GW Bush!!!
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM
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15. so now we get coverage
of finding the "new" pope, the stamps, oh MJ etc.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM
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16. Laura looks like she's sedated.
Is that how they "handle" her?
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:27 PM
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24. Stepford Wife, remember??
Batteries were low and they were out of extension cords....
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:29 PM
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26. Ahhhh.
All questions are answered on DU.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:04 PM
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18. As usual
I won't be watching. I can't stand listening to him. He makes me wanna :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:38 PM
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52. Now is that any way to talk about the Pretzeldent? n/t
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:04 PM
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EWTN is showing the prayers from St. Peters
Their coverage is much better than that of any of the news networks.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:00 PM
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39. It better be
They have a perma-hookup to Vatican TV, no doubt. Plus, they have a host (no pun intended) of assets from the church to give color commentary, background, history and perspective.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:04 PM
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19. Oh give me a fucking break ! "Satan to address Nation on Pope's Death"
Also don't his Rapture Right minions hate Catholics? Barf. Barf. Barf. :spank:
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:06 PM
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20. Pope's guns. What's going to happen to them now he's passed away?
Little discussed in the American Whore Media because they're controlled by corporate "Foundlers". When a gun owner passes away there is absolutely no checks to obtain or trace what happened to the deceased guns. I have first hand experience. So isn't that about 100,000 untraceable guns to be sold to terrorist?
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:10 PM
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21. I'm glad the coverage is on so many channels
Every time one even mentions shrub I change channels.
They're trying so very hard to make DimSon part of this.

Why must he speechify? I don't know. Google "Pope" beside "not christian" and it appears most of what numbnuts calls his base pretty much hate the Pope.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:12 PM
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22. I don't give a shit what this phoney christian
liar and devil has to say about my Pope. I will NOT listen to him. That devil himself, Cheney, also had something to say earlier. I didn't hear or read that either. Go back in your bunkers, yellow-bellied liars and murders.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:24 PM
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23. He just has to throw in "culture of life" line ....
In a speech that is about someone who didn't agree w/ him on anything.. the war, the torture...Terri S., etc...
Give it up shrub...seems like it is an insult to the Pope to throw your hypocritical phrase into the mix just hours after his death.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:27 PM
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25. If pandering was an Olympic sport, Bush would be world champ.
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golden voyages Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:43 PM
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48. I guess he'll just have to settle for "world chimp"
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:37 PM
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27. George has ordered flags to be at half mast until the night
of the funeral.

Has this been done for other popes???
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:38 PM
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28. My mother, who is still a practicing Catholic,
agreed with me (who is not a practicing Catholic) that lowering the White House flag is inappropriate.

She wondered what the reaction would have been had JFK lowered the flag when John XXIII died in June of 1963.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:54 PM
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34. Bush* is pandering
Half mast president.

180
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:56 PM
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37. Agreed and this is outrageous!
Why are flags being lowered to half mast? Tell me why? First I've heard of and I am outraged. What do I do with my outrage?

Drink. Nothing left to do.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:48 AM
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59. Does he lower the staff to half mast every time our soldiers die in Iraq
in HIS WAR?

Memo to George: The Pontiff couldn't stand you and didn't think much of you....

Does anyone else here on the DU think that the Chimp actually is thinking that when he too "passes" that he'll have the masses of adulation that Pope John Paul II does? Does the Boy King actually think people (especially Catholics) give a crap about what he has to say? I personaly am outraged by him and feel its an insult to have him say anything about the Pope....While I didn't agree with all issues with the Pope, I respect him and think he was a good soul and tried to do good work...Contrast that to the evil anti-christ in the White House....

Ugh...I feel sick...:puke:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:39 AM
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60. I just keep thinking "shock and awe", well okay, I am sufficiently
shocked and in deep awe. Can we stop now, please?

I need the pic of Bush meeting with the Pope where the Pope has his head in his hands.

We all need it, who has it here, I know someone does. Please put it up ASAP!
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David K. Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:43 PM
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29. Panderer-in-Chief
...always nice to see him take another step downhill.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:45 PM
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30. see this thread--bush advances his cult of life in his comments
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:46 PM
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31. Did anyone think he wouldn't try to capitalize off of this?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:47 PM
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32. What could Bush possibly say....
...that could justifiably honor John Paul II? Bush's policies both as governor and president absolutely mock any kind of meaningful tribute that he could offer the late pontiff.

I, for one, will not be listening.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:50 PM
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33. Hypocrite chimp
makes me want to :puke: I bet he is glad the Pope is gone because it is one less critic chimp has to deal with.
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Cone10 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:54 PM
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35. Surprised
I saw the video of Bush and the Pope together and noticed how uncomfortable Bush looked, probably because it is difficult for someone as evil as Bush to be in the presence of such Goodness. I didn't always agree on issues in the Catholic Church but I had great respect for John Paul as a leader and peacemaker. At least in the Catholic Church there was consistency when it came to death. They were against Abortion, The Death Penalty and War. Pope John Paul is doing in death the same as he has done in life and that is to bring people together.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:11 PM
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50. Yeah, I agree with you.
Although I'm not religious myself, I respected the Pope.

He was strongly against the Iraq war and that is the most important issue to me right now. He also worked to attain friendliness between the different religions of the world. For his important efforts in these areas he gets my respect.

And you are right that he was consistent.

Welcome to DU !
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:55 PM
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36. Bush probably hated the pope.
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 04:57 PM by daleo
He called him out on the Iraq war, and said it could by no stretch be called a just war. That must have had Bush doing a slow burn. John Paul seemed like an honest pacifist, Bush only hated war if he personally had to fight in one.

On edit - the pope also condemned shallow materialism and consumerism, while the Bushs positively embrace such values. Remember from F911: "you are the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite, but I call you my base".
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:58 PM
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38. Forget you, Dubya
You're the last person we want to hear from right now, you a--hole.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:01 PM
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40. only if Bush says, "John Paul was right about Iraq and I'm sending
our troops home." will anything he has to say have any significance.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:04 PM
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41. Bush won`t be addressing this part of the nation
because I won`t be listening.

Instead of trying to make political hay out of the Pope`s death, Bush should drop to his knees and beg forgiveness for the hell he has put the world through.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:28 PM
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42. The Pope thought Bush was the Anti-Christ. Is Bush going to claim victory?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:33 PM
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43. Hey, bush ... don't forget Poland!
The Pope would neither want your words, nor would he want you to use his death for another of your grandstanding moments.

george w. bush, the world's foremost necro-politician.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:38 PM
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44. How come Bu*h is not a Catholic if he considers the Pope the Holy Father?
Just asking; makes it look like Bu*h is using the death of the Pope for political opportunity.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:49 PM
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45. Who cares what Bush thinks
because it's only coming from Karl Rove.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:52 PM
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46. Lip service
That is all I can say. I wish truly religious people were esteemed here; not politically pandering falsely religious fundies and born agains. They make me sick.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 06:47 PM
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47. Gag me with a crozier...
:puke:

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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:52 PM
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49. *yawn*
Leave it to Bush to jump on any bandwagon he can to make a religious pronouncement. I wish he'd just shut the fuck up...

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:47 PM
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54. That man defames the dead by delivering any eulogy
Bush should just shut up.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:03 PM
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55. Great idea! Lower the flags and give God's lightning bolts a better chance
to hit the poles.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:33 PM
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56. PANDERER!
Those Catholic votes are mighty important, aren't they? If he had spoken as quickly about the children who were gunned down in their school the other day, it might not be so obvious.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:41 PM
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57. It's amusing to watch the media
narrate this story.
While I feel sad for Catholics, the Pope's death isn't emotional for me since am not one. I feel bad for another human being suffering like he did at the end, but I'm not going to pretend that this is life-changing. But I'm seeing a boatload of pretending on the TV, and to watch the cable shows one would think that America is a Catholic country from California to Maine with hardly a Baptist or Methodist among us!

The fact is most of these weepy death junkies probably grew up in homes where Catholics were called Papists among other things. Watching Joe Scarborough last night try to emote and lavish Heavenly attributes to John Paul would have been embarassing if I didn't think he was such a creep and like seeing him make an ass of himself. He wouldn't have a clue if you asked him the most basic questions about the Catholic Church, yet here he was acting as though he needed to get off the air to collect himself from the grief.

Not one reporter has mentioned Dumbya's trip to Bob Jones University or his theological leanings before Billy Graham slapped him around. No, no, no - it's all "Holy Father" this and "Holy Father" that. Now the flag at the WH is at half mast? WTF? Doesn't some journalist want to remark on that? Just think of the HUGE deal that it was that Kennedy was Catholic and the questions raised about his loyalty to the country versus the Pope. No mention of THAT so far which would at least give an honest view of how Catholics were viewed in this country for a long time. Hell, they've gone from just months ago giving Reagan credit for the fall of communism to tales of the The Pope staring down those dirty commies and changing the world. They are not acting like reporters and Bush isn't acting like a political figure - they are acting like this is soooooooo hard to deal with on a personal level and any reporting that gets done is an accident.

I'm never surprised by the media's coverage of stories these days as they try to entertain us, but the massiveness of this coverage is creepy.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:45 AM
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61. The coverage is not just creepy, it it downright frightening to any sane
person.

Stand back, heads down and watch out.
Get out of the way.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:30 AM
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63. Bush could give a crap about the Pope
Its all smoke and mirrors. To appear to the "faithful" that he cares
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:50 AM
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62. *yawn* everything bush does these days is symptomatic of having a
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 05:51 AM by truthisfreedom
screw loose and a squeaky wheel. he's going in circles... rove just can't figure out what direction to point the poor guy. i think that the Dems refusing to engage him on the social security deal while enabling the nation to overtly fight him over the issue has actually caused a small stroke in bush's tiny brain. now he's singing the praises of a guy who stood steadfastly against him... i think the Dems should speak out for the Pope next, celebrating how strongly he stood against the invasion, and what a fine fellow he was for doing it. and they should do it with a smile, citing bush's strong support for the Pope now.
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