ADL Poll: Americans Support Action Against Iran

[underthedome]

Subject title is Headline as it reads from adl.org website.
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ADL Poll: Majority of Americans Support Military Action by U.S. And Israel to Prevent Iran from Developing Nuclear Weapons


New York, NY, April 13, 2005 … A majority of the American people support military action by the United States and Israel to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons as a last resort, according the Anti-Defamation League's 2005 American Attitudes Toward Israel and the Middle East, a public opinion survey of 1,600 American adults conducted March 18-25 by the Marttila Communications Group.

When asked, "Do you think America should take military action to stop Iran from developing or trying to develop a nuclear weapons program," 53% said yes; 37% said no. When asked whether Israel should take military action to stop the Iranian nuclear program, 51% said yes, 34% said no.

"The findings are important, less for its prescription for any particular policy than for the recognition by the public of the serious danger inherent in Iran's Islamic regime achieving nuclear capability," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "This is a clear message from the American public that strong action is imperative in this matter. It should inform the Europeans that this is no time for procrastination, that UN sanctions against an uncooperative regime are needed, and that a military option, while only a last resort, is an acceptable option."

The findings on the Iranian question, however, do not correspond to American opinion on the broader issue of a pre-emptive strategy. By a margin of 58% to 32%, the public opposes a pre-emptive action when it is not clear that there is an immediate threat to America's national security.

The poll has a margin of error of +/-2.8%.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Mise_00/4690_00.htm

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. I bet THAT was a very select sample n/t

[Dave Reynolds]

44. My bet is a

select sample of ADL members.

[Name removed]

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[unhappycamper]

2. 53% my ass

i would sure be interested in seeing the social-political breakdown of those 1,600 americans in this poll.

[nolabels]

35. 70% of the US don't even know where Iran is on the map

Let's flail some numbers about to help shore up chimpy's base, shall we? Does it sound like bushco is starting to get a little nervous?

War,War,War, Rah,Rah,Rah, this is the only alternative to on coming train wreck that is the US economy. I mean do you really have to wonder what their next move is going to be :shrug:


Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran

by Stephen Bender

...like the Beach Boys used to sing...

Another Summer Blockbuster?

If the duly reelected American government decides to bomb Iran – or green lights Israel to do it, which is morally indistinguishable – these men will put we the people in the position of having no moral defense against Islamic terrorism. Some leftists – most crassly Ward Churchill – made something like this point after 9/11. That was overblown rhetoric; and the reference to "little Eichmanns" at Cantor-Fitzgerald was a statement of moral idiocy.

It hurts to write and know that we have done unto others much more than they have done unto us – this includes 9/11, I'm afraid. No one "deserved" to die on 9/11, nor will anyone "deserve" to die in a future terror attack in the United States. But then, no one "deserved" to die, as we sat transfixed in our living rooms, under the bombs of "Shock & Awe,"* That's "moral equivalence" too – all human life is precious.

The explanation on offer by amoralists like William Bennett is that our motives are pure, which of course they aren't. And, again and again, we're "the greatest democracy in the history of the world." Why, we're Americans; don't people know that we're a good people? We "work hard and play by the rules"; we try (and mostly fail) to raise upstanding citizens. Sorry, self-regard doesn't cut it. Non-Americans around the world want to see some actual evidence of these alleged values and morals that the president prattles on about.
(snip)

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iraq

So, the government hit Iraq. It had a bad dictator and stuff. He was being really mean to his poor people. He was snarling at some of the people in the countries around him. We were going to help the long-suffering Iraqi people. You remember them, right? Those ones we had – hand in hand with Saddam – helped out in repressing and killing for decades. Wasn't that a nice thing for the government to do – to help out the Iraqi people and stuff? That's why we were greeted as liberators, remember? Because that's just how the American government is – it does nice things for bronzed folks in places like Iraq. Now doesn't it make you feel better?
(snip)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/bender/bender10.html

[unhappycamper]

3. 53% my ass

i would sure be interested in seeing the social-political breakdown of those 1,600 americans in this poll.

[ucmike]

4. would've never heard of this poll if it wasn't pro-adl

not bashing, just think its funny that their poll results fall directly in line with their thinking.

[katty]

53. When sharon and bush say "no attack"-that means YES

[buff2]

5. Well,that's all that murderer in the White house needs.....

a little encouragement from his fellow blood thirsty war mongers. It won't be long now.Another phucking war and billions more of our tax dollars paying for it. So much for their lies about "not having enough money for SS or health care".God,I hate bu$h and his gang of thugs!!!!! :argh: :grr:

[renaissanceguy]

6. I'd like to see how many of this 53%

is willing to sacrifice their children.


HELL NO, I WON'T GO.



http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/479723

[UpInArms]

7. and I guess they only polled donating members of the ADL

for this poll?

:rofl:

[underthedome]

8. Interesting that more Americans would rather have the U.S. attack Iran

than have Israel attack Iran. That makes no sense.

[Straight Shooter]

13. I noticed that, too.

More profit for U.S. corporations if we attack rather than Israel.

[mitchtv]

37. they will fight ISREAL'S war

to the last American

[Roland99]

9. What a joke...why even bother reporting such "news"?

[underthedome]

10. You suggest to ignore it? Discredit the poll before it gets anywhere. *nm

nm

[Dhalgren]

20. Anyone who would credit this poll

would not listen to us discredit it. So, yeah, ignore it, it amounts to piss...

[Liberal Veteran]

11. AFA Poll: Americans Support Jailing Gays and ACLU Lawyers

:eyes:

[Tempest]

12. The ADL uses Marttila for all its polling

I smell a rat, or at least the hint of a lack of objectivity on Marttila's part.

[still_one]

14. morans

and I am Jewish

Frankly, I stopped listening to polls since the election

they don't mean anything

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. they did not ask me

and I would have told them where to shove it, where the sun does not shine...

That said, hey boys, here are your papers, now go see the recruiter... if you really want to be heroes, they need Medics I hear...

[DulceDecorum]

19. They probably restricted themselves to questioing only

top-level Halliburton employees.

[htuttle]

16. Bin Laden wants us to attack Iran

It would be as great a gift to his movement as when we attacked Iraq.

Not to mention the fact that Iran is predominately Shia, and has given his side some crap in Afghanistan from time to time.

Using the patented Right Wing Bizzaro Logic™, that would mean that the ADL, and the majority of Americans, actually support Bin Laden.

I'm reporting the whole lot of us to Homeland Security...

[Robeson]

17. Then that 53% ought to volunteer to be in the first wave of the attack....

[renaissanceguy]

27. All chickenhawk neocons...

How quickly they forget the Ten Commandments.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/479723

[David__77]

18. KKK Poll: Americans Oppose Interracial Marriage.

Big whoop. The ADL is a criminal organization that has spied on Americans in the service of foreign powers, including fascist South Africa.

[meganmonkey]

21. "The findings are important..."

in demonstrating how completely ignorant and short-sighted many Americans are."

:puke:

[Caution]

22. Better poll question: Would you support this if it meant a draft?

[MuseRider]

23. Fine

you want it then you can fucking sign up for it, idiots. Better yet, sign up your children because I am damned sure mine are not going. Oh yes, you can also pay for it freaks. I was hoping we could avoid this one but this is all Bush** needs. Look for this study to get lots and lots of air play.

[54anickel]

24. Nice how they try to disregard the term "AS A LAST RESORT". Sheesh!

The findings on the Iranian question actually DO correspond to American opinion on the broader issue of pre-emptive strategy, IF you give the term "as a last resort" some credit.

Spin, spin, spin into "Action is imperative".

:banghead:

[Zorra]

25. A pro Israel organization conducts a poll regarding the US invading

an Arab nation, with significant pro-invasion results.

Yuh. I'm convinced.
:sarcasm:

If Israel wants to invade Iran, then that is their choice.

IMO, the intention of this poll by the ADL is a propagandistic attempt to convince American citizens that the majority of American citizens want the US to invade Iran, in order to promote a US invasion of Iran.

I really resent a heavily foreign influenced, ethnically biased group trying to tell me, an American citizen, how to think, or to try to convince me of what my government should do. I don't care if they are Irish, German, Chinese, Israeli, or from Venus.

Stay the fuck out of my governments affairs.

[Save The World]

62. Is Iran

an Arab nation? I thought it wasn't.

[AquaBritt]

26. This is an outrage!!

How could we possibly be thinking of starting another war when the first one isnt even finished! How many innocent people have to die for this ASSHOLE to be happy?

[TahitiNut]

29. Welcome to DU, AquaBritt

The Reich has moved from an outrage/week to an outrage/day. Fascists are like that. :shrug:

[AquaBritt]

32. Thank You!! TahitiNut

This stuff makes me sick to my stomach! I have a brother that will deport in July and the thought of him going to serve Bush is the worst thing I can think of. Then there is talk of starting another F-ing war and people supporting this makes me wonder what kind of world this really is!!

[renaissanceguy]

36. And then they will start the draft.

Better get your passports to head up north NOW.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/479727

[unhappycamper]

67. ". . . . . when the first one isnt even finished!"

I would offer a minor correction to that statement: ". . . when the first one two isnt aren't even finished!"

[AquaBritt]

73. You are right!!

That makes it even worse but true!

[renaissanceguy]

28. Liberal Poll: Americans say Draft Republicans First

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/479723

[acmavm]

30. I don't know ANYONE in favor of another war that we can't win. Not

anyone.

This is pure bullshit.

[Dr Fate]

31. Dont forget to sign your kids up for the military then.

You either "support" war or you dont.

[shantipriya]

33. Action against Iran

This time sons and daughters of ONLY those who favor the action against Iran should do the fighting together with sons and daughters of all the Repugs and Congressmen who support the war!!!

[Maat]

34. My daughter is NOT going to Iraq ..

she's not going to Iran ... or to be a G.I. in any action of the Booosh Family Evil Empire.

True, she is only 8, but I have to start thinking about the Boooshes they are going to have in office then.

I think she is going to be visiting Canada during her last years of high school.

Maybe you guys can start helping me plan where to take her.

But she is not going to be 'cannon fodder.'

And she IS being taught that WAR is NOT the answer ... except possibly in situations like we found ourselves in around 1941-1945.

[Javaman]

38. Since moron* doesn't pay attention to polls...

Then these shouldn't mean anything to him...Yeah right.

[Hobarticus]

39. Define "military action", please...

Way at the bottom:

By a margin of 58% to 32%, the public opposes a pre-emptive action when it is not clear that there is an immediate threat to America's national security.

No, not skewed at all, no.

[Wright Patman]

40. Anti-Defecation League

full of itself as usual.

Against all enemas, foreign or domestic.

Pledging to support the constipation of the United States.

[hector459]

41. So Israel is going to lead us into another war costing the lives of our

children. If we go down this path we may as well re-name ourselves the United States of Israel. I am sick of this shit!!

Israel was the source of much of our fake and false itel about Iraq.

[Behind the Aegis]

42. Which war?

Which war has Israel led us to? Are we to believe that a country the size of Delaware is in charge of the United States? You state that Israel was responsible as the source of much of the information. My understanding it was information provided by our own intelligence and the dear friend of Shrub, Chalabi.

[Disturbed]

45. Zorra, Iranians are not Arabs.

Iranians are Persians.

I believe that most Amerikans would vote for an attack upon Iran once the Bush Junta Media stokes to fire to do so. Of course it would be insane for the U.S Govt. to so but then is the Bush Junta sane?

[Behind the Aegis]

46. Confused.

Did you mean to reply to my post? Also, what did you mean by "zorra?" I know in Spanish it means "vixen," but it can also mane "bitch." Or is there another meaning of the word being used here? Thanks.

[xchrom]

50. israel has supported our violent action against the middle east.

[Behind the Aegis]

58. And?

There are plenty of other nations that have supported this mis-Administration's blood-lust, yet, they don't seem to draw the ire and out-right HATRED that Israel does.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

43. ADL is FULL OF ELEPHANTSHIT!

[Frederik]

47. Oh good heavens

How stupid can people be? It's just un-fuckin-believable.

"It should inform the Europeans that this is no time for procrastination"

Yeah, because the the people who watch Fox for their information on world affairs say so. Sure.

[solinvictus]

48. Fred Phelps Poll: 80% of Americans believe gays should be locked up..

about as reliable as this one.

[clem_c_rock]

49. Probably true - given the American public has to be the most gullible

group of dumbass sheep ever.

History will look back on Americans as the biggest idiots and cowards only rivald by the cowardly gullible German public.

Instead of waking the fuck up they/we bought the pathetic patriotic bullshit w/out a peep of a fight. The same exact tactic they used when they made up the Gulf of Tonkin so they could yank kids away from their families and throw them into the jungles of Nam.

It's funny to think that Rove and company probably have planning charts pointing to the "groups most easily manipulated" - American patriots and bible bashers.

[katty]

51. a VERY Select Sampling-mainly pro Zionists

[brettdale]

54. The people who want action against Iran

Should be the first ones, that have a gun stuck in thier hand with no body armour and sent over thier.

If Bushy decides to invade Iran will it be in the first two years of this second term or the last two?

[agincourt]

55. Sadly I believe this poll,

All the administration has to do is wave the plutonium flag and people will go along with any war Bush cooks up. The threat is actually terrorism, not Islamic weapon systems. I don't think Iran has much uranium on their soil, unlike N Korea. The key is coordination with Europe and Russia to limit their capability. Unfortunately, Americans love the shooting cowboy rather than statecraft. War by June wouldn't surprise me, the only article of restraint being the fragility of the US economy and the oil market.

[stepnw1f]

56. The Propaganda Begins... Freep Shit

Send every goddamn freeper to Iran.

[Gyre]

57. Yeah, lets just mail ALL our shit to the Israelis

You know, they're not going to leave us alone until that happens.

Gyre

[funnymanpants]

59. Please, Please, DUer, don't take this seriously

I have scanned the posts and see a lot of "Well, Americans are really short-sighted." Maybe they are, but the ADL should not be taken seriously.

They have had to settle at least one law suit for spying on leftist organizations. The ADL is a pro-likudinite organization that shamelessly promotes the policies of Ariel Sharon. Of course they would want to have the poll turn out exactly as it did.

I don't have time to post any links, but do some a few quick web searches on the ADL. I too was surprised but what I found. They really are not more to be believed than Richard Perl.

So despair about America and try to make sense of *real* polls, even when they are depressing.

But don't confuse this poll with a real one.

[ngGale]

60. Here is the real plan they are pushing...

ADL Poll: Majority of Americans Support Military Action by U.S. And Israel to Prevent Iran from Developing Nuclear Weapons
___________________________________________________________________

US and Israel, that's the deal being sold from the ranch. Sharon and Bush = two bad leaders.

[JohnLocke]

61. "AS A LAST RESORT" - don't take this out of its context!

New York, NY, April 13, 2005 … A majority of the American people support military action by the United States and Israel to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons as a last resort, according the Anti-Defamation League's 2005 American Attitudes Toward Israel and the Middle East, a public opinion survey of 1,600 American adults...

[lala_rawraw]

63. Earth to ADL...

As a Jew, let me point you to the current location of reality. In case you missed it, you have a Nazi friend in the White House. You have the same friend in bed with the Sauds. You have the same people sleeping with the KKK and the crazy lunatic right who thinks that Jews killed Jesus. All that aside, just one question:

Since when did the Jews around the world matter less than the Jews in Israel? Just curious!!!

[Behind the Aegis]

64. Funny!

That was kinda funny! :) I am not going to try and defend this 'poll' but, I really don't think the ADL values the lives of Israeli Jews over the rest of us. I feel they are just afraid that Israel will cease to exist, and sometimes, I fear that too! To be honest, I am disgusted that so many Jews have placed trust in this administration! All it takes is a few good google searches and it is easy to see that this bunch doesn't give a rat's ass about Israel!

BTW, you have stopped by the Jewish forum, right? It's not quite a mitzvah to post there, but you wouldn't want us to lose our room for low postings, would you?! ;) (How was that for Jewish guilt?! :))

[lala_rawraw]

74. If I knew there was a Jewish forum, I would

Have been there complaining from day one about this or that:) Thanks for the guilt! I actually have no clue on who has what groups and I really need to go look. I am silly and confused:D

I worry about Israel too, of course. I worry about humanity more so.

[peace_prevails]

65. Canada? Too close...

I'm currently in New Zealand... thank heyzeus... and now I'm thinking... I better get that damn residency application in quick, like before the next war starts and they have to put a quota on American apps... I also happen to be a 7th generation Texan... fat chance they'll be any 8th generation Texans in my family if this joker keeps this shite up.

[4dsc]

66. Oil, Geopolitics, and the Coming War with Iran

http://www.energybulletin.net/5277.html

Its all about the oil!! Make no mistake about it!! Cheney energy task force discussed PEAK OIL and the ramifications of securing oil in these Arab countries!!

They thought it was going to be easy!! They underestimated the verocity of the Iraqi's and if they think they can invade Iran too, then we're all in trouble!!

[w4rma]

68. Warmongering right-wing Likud Party fundamentalist freaks. (nt)

[Massachusetts]

69. READER BEWARE ADL = NEOCONS

[entanglement]

70. Yeah, I believe that.

:sarcasm:
ADL is a pro-Likud,"what's good for Israel is good for America" organization posing as a human rights group. Naturally, the ADL slime-balls would love to see American blood shed in a war to get rid of Israel's enemies.

Foxman: "This is a clear message from the American public that strong action is imperative in this matter..."

Will you, dirtbag Foxman, or your spawn fight in that war?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[BiggJawn]

71. We do? Nobody asked MY opinion...But then, I'm not a ADL member...

You don't have to be a fan of the Food Network to know all the ways "news" can be cooked....

I could have gone across the street last night, conducted a poll as everyone came out of church, and then report "93% of Murkans say Jeebus is coming 'real soon'..."

[zanne]

72. One Word:

Bullshit.