World Terror Attacks Tripled in 2004 by U.S. Count- Reuters

[johnnie]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. count of major world terrorist attacks more than tripled in 2004, a rise that may revive debate on whether the Bush administration is winning the war on terrorism, congressional aides said on Tuesday.

More:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20050426/ts_nm/security_usa_terrorism_dc


Somehow I find this easy to believe.

[hector459]

1. Just another lie told by the RW and Bush. The worl is NOT safer.

Neither is this country.

[Mugsy]

19. Their response is always, "Yeah, but just wait!"

You will never get the neocons to acknowledge this as a failure because their response is always, 'it may be bad now, but long-term, everything will be GREAT!"

That is their answer for ousting Saddam despite having no WMD's ("he wasn't a threat now, but eventually..."), ergo, we had to waste the lives of 1600 dead soldiers and thousands more greviously disabled for life... all because "maybe", "someday", Saddam "might" have become a threat (if we had done something mind-numbingly stupid like allow him run unchecked for 20 years... and if we *had* left him alone for 20 years, just how eager do you think he would have been to attack us and draw our military down on him?)

You can't get through to these people, because their answer is always that some imagined possibility of what might be justifies the means... no matter how often this logic has failed in the past.

[Javaman]

39. heck, if this report helps in getting moron* fired, then...

the end does justify the means LOL

[central scrutinizer]

2. Oops, Condi got busted again

just couldn't keep the lid on that nasty old pot of truth

<>

[Up2Late]

3. What a load of BullSh*t, It's MUCH higher than that!

The European Insurance company Aon just released their new Terror map, and Iraq alone had 2,922 Terrorist attacks.

I guess our Government places a higher value of $10,000 of stuff over Human Life.

World terror risk 'on the rise'

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

23. I PREFER THE TERM "BUSH-SHIT"

It just seems to flow so much nicer - and fits so perfectly!

[ktowntennesseedem]

24. Remember, you can't spell bullshit without B-U-S-H

BUllSHit

[Frances]

4. Fuzzy Math

1. The vote count in 2000
2. The vote count in 2004
3. The cost of Bush's prescription drug plan
4. The number of WMDs in Iraq
5. The cost of Bush's tax cut for the super rich
6. The number of jobs lost in Bush's administration

Just off the top of my head. Why would anyone believe any numbers this administration gives out?

[Darranar]

5. There is no "war on terrorism"...

but to the extent that there have been efforts by US officials to destroy non-state terrorists opposed to US imperial policy, they have been miserable failures.

[Voltaire99]

13. Well said. The "war on terror" is a lie.

This vicious fantasy, perpetuated by Republican and Democrat alike, is a tool for leading gullible TV-watchers by the nose while our armies secure new markets for US capital.

Alas, the mass murder committed in its name is real.

[Wilms]

6. The only possible outcome to their "Wars on Terror" is what we got.

And I think it was their intent all along.

[Zorra]

7. This says it all -

[johnnie]

8. Hey...

I remember that dude.

[gratuitous]

20. No you don't

And you don't remember anything about people dying from anthrax, either.

[johnnie]

21. Oh yeah

I almost forgot that I had forgotten.

[Roland99]

9. The count will be scrapped for the future

Kindasleazy has axed that report.

[NNN0LHI]

10. World terror attacks tripled in 2004

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5723957&cKey=1114538709000

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. count of major world terrorist attacks more than tripled in 2004, a rise that may revive debate on whether the Bush administration is winning the war on terrorism, congressional aides said on Tuesday.

The number of "significant" international terrorist attacks rose to about 650 last year from about 175 in 2003, according to congressional aides briefed on the numbers by U.S. State Department and intelligence officials on Monday.

The aides were told the surge partly reflected an increased tally of violence in Kashmir, which is claimed by India and Pakistan, and the devotion of more manpower to U.S. monitoring efforts, which resulted in more attacks being counted overall.

The State Department last year initially released erroneous figures that understated the attacks, fatalities and casualties in 2003 and used the figures to claim the Bush administration was prevailing in the war on terrorism.

[leftofthedial]

11. and that doesn't even include state terror

like the attack on fallujah or othe American aggression against the Iraqi people or Israeli attacks on Palestinians.

[Nothing Without Hope]

12. No wonder they wanted to suppress the yearly terror report.

This needs to be publicized. Recommended.

[xultar]

14. GIT'er Done! Mission Accomplished! n/t

[lonestarnot]

26. Ewww Gawd...I hate that fat dude! Fucking hillbilly idiot machine not

even funny. As for the terra attacks, bushitler doesn't want to alarm anyone...kept it concealedcondasleeza rig the numbers, just like Rover did the election...like we wouldn't find out right?

[outrage]

15. No shit, Sherlock. Who didn't see this coming....

But you know the Bush administration. They'll shit on your leg and call it chocolate. Fuckers.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. They must be adding every attack on US forces in Iraq.

[deadparrot]

17. But Amurka didn't get attacked, so it doesn't count.

Right?

[V Lee]

18. "Spreading freedom?"

Or spreading terror? It seems that the facts speak for themselves.


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[lollipop]

22. Now the bush admin will

pour even more money into the war on terrah. Not to mention the additional military personnel that he will have to add. Can you say 'Draft'.

[DemoMemo]

25. Definitions Are Partly an Issue

The dramatic jump in the numbers is partly a matter of definitions. A significant portion of the reporting includes attacks in Iraq. Many of the attacks reflect two things: (1) Iraq is an occupied country, and no matter what you want to call them (terrorists or freedom fighters?) some number of Iraqis are actively trying to throw off the yoke of the occupiers. (2) Iraq is undergoing a smoldering civil war among competing Sunni and Shia factions.

Should we treat the statistics related to Iraq the same as the others reported? Probably not. While some may say an attack is an attack, and therefore terrorism -- the truth is that there are fundamentally very different issues at play in Iraq versus much of the rest of the world. Not to oversimplify about this, but Iraq is a beast of a different color.

[dxstone]

27. fuzzy statistics..

At least, in their limited conclusions:

"Waxman's letter said that of the about 650 significant attacks last year, about 300 reflected violence in India and Pakistan, leaving some 350 attacks elsewhere in the world -- double the total 2003 count.

He suggested this reflected enhanced U.S. efforts to monitor media reports of violence, thereby leading to the identification of "many more attacks in India and Pakistan related to Kashmir." He also said congressional aides were told of about 198 attacks in Iraq in 2004, up from 22 in 2003."

So in terms of Iraq specifically, the number of attacks is up exactly 900%...
From last year, when there was ALSO a war going on in Iraq... hmmm...
'Course, it wasn't the entirety of 2003, anyway, right? (fuzzy dates)... so things can't have gotten nine times worse, right?... yeah, things are probably only four or five times worse than last year, at the VERY worst, right?... haha... what a relief!

Gosh, Bush, you're doing such a fine and fuzzy job, mr monkeymotherfucker, and all for only 300 billion dollars so far, or enough to buy every man, woman and child in America a Rolls Royce, a mint copy of Superman #1 and the bones of the Elephant Man... Well, then, do carry on! Mission accomplished! Indeed! Pip pip! Cheerio! Wave the flag high! Good show!
We're SO glad you're here to FIX everything, you crazed Jerry Lewis clone on a nitrous bender...
Oh, and DO in the future try to be careful you don't CHOKE ON A PRETZEL, YA GREEDY, EVIL, MORONIC, POWERMAD, OVERREACHING, INSANE, DISGUSTING HYPOCRITICAL LYING SCUM-SUCKING MALIGNANT DIRTBAG MONSTER!
God, how I hate these wars you love so much...
D



more grim giggles at
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[paineinthearse]

28. Is this the reason the State Dept has stopped publishing terrorism records

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=40430

US State Department to stop publishing terrorism statistics after blunder

Published: 4/18/2005

WASHINGTON - The US State Department said Monday it will stop publishing statistics on terrorism activities after discrepancies were found in figures for the number of attacks and casualties in an annual report. Department spokesman Richard Boucher said "the government has decided that the National Counterterrorism Center should compile and publish the statistical data on terrorism that has previously been included by the State Department in our report."

But he dismissed news reports that the department would do away with its annual "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report, which in mandated by law. "That report is due to Congress by April 30, and we will do that this year," Boucher said, adding that the publication would concern, as it had in the past, the country reports on terrorism.

"That's what the law asks of the State Department, that's what we'll be reporting to Congress," he said. The statistical component of the report would be handled by the National Counterterrorism Center, the government's primary organization for analysis of global terrorism. The State Department report last year on terrorism statistics in 2003 was riddled with errors and then Secretary of State Colin Powell called it "a big mistake". The report had to be corrected and re-released.

The 2004 report had claimed that the number of terrorist incidents has been on the decline over the past three years and that 190 cases reported in 2003, represented the lowest reported total since 1969. US officials at the time trumpeted the report as evidence that the United States was winning the war on terrorism. However, after academics accused the department of mischaracterizing information in the report, it acknowledged that it had underreported the number of terrorist incidents and released an updated version of the terrorism report. Boucher rejected suggestions that the change in the annual report's format of gauging terrorism smacked of politics. "There's no politics in this. There's an attempt to get the best possible information to the Congress and to the American people on what's going on in the world with regard to terrorism," he said. "The people of the United States will get all the facts. The world will get all the facts. We're going to do very thorough reports we do on countries that support terrorism, on countries where terrorism occurs and on foreign terrorist organizations, as we always have in the past. They're going to do the numbers, as they can best do. "Each of us will do what we can do best and put it out and explain it."

[Disturbed]

29. The War on the Amerikan people is

for real. War On Terror is like the War On Drugs, the War On Poverty ect.

More BUSHIT.

[Gyre]

38. Freedumb is "on the march"!

America's marching off a cliff to a tune played by the dumbest-fuck on the planet. What great times we live in! (if you're a nihlist).

Gyre

[Moderator]

30. kick to combine

[Beaverhausen]

31. Data kept out of terror report shows 'dramatic uptick' in attacks: lawmake

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=afp/usattacksreport

Didn't see this. sorry if it's a dupe.

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Data withheld from an annual report on terrorism issued by the US State Department shows a sharp increase in the number of attacks last year in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere, a leading Democratic lawmaker charged.

"According to the data being concealed from the public, global terror attacks were more than three times higher in 2004 than the record levels set in 2003," Representative Henry Waxman (news, bio, voting record) wrote in a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, asking that the information be restored to the department's annual report "Patterns of Global Terrorism."

His letter was sent one day after administration officials at a Capitol Hill briefing presented data showing what he called a "dramatic uptick" in terrorist attacks.

"In Iraq, where we are spending billions to restore order, terrorist attacks were nine times higher in 2004 than in 2003," said Waxman.

more at the link

[whistle]

32. Last year was a presidential election year, surely it would make

...no sense at all for the President to campaign on "stay the course" and "freedom for all Iraqis" while reporting that terrorist attacks were on the increase :sarcasm:

[ClintonTyree]

33. That's what happens when "freedom is on the march"...

it's a bumpy road. Trying to get freedom together for a staff meeting is hard enough, but when you try to get it "on the march" there are so many logistical problems it creates a whole lot of "bumping into each other". I imagine that's what these incidents reported are, just freedom bumping into each other. Nothing to worry about. Continue on your way citizen.

[chlamor]

34. Terror Attacks Increased Sharply in 2004

Terror Attacks Increased Sharply in 2004


Wednesday April 27, 2005 9:01 AM

By BARRY SCHWEID

AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Terror attacks worldwide more than tripled last year reaching a record high, according to government figures released by a senior House Democrat.

Based on a briefing federal officials gave congressional aides, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., said Tuesday there were about 650 significant terror attacks last year. He said that was more than three times the record 175 tallied by the government in 2003.

The State Department is due to report to Congress and make public by the end of the month its annual report on terrorism around the world. The department announced last week it had decided to stop including an annual statistical account of incidents, turning the task over to a counterterrorism center Congress established last year.

In a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that his staff circulated to the media, Waxman said the 2004 figure may be underestimated significantly. Many incidents that most Americans would regard as terror attacks were excluded from State Department data, he said, because they did not meet the department's definition.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4965671,00.html

[sabra]

35. Bush administration switches gears, releases terror report

<<SNIP>>
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/11505370.htm

Bush administration switches gears, releases terror report

BY FRANK DAVIES

Knight Ridder Newspapers


WASHINGTON - (KRT) - Under pressure from Congress, the Bush administration reversed gears Wednesday and released a report showing an upsurge in terrorist attacks worldwide in 2004 after first withholding the statistics from the public.

The number of "significant attacks" grew to about 651 last year, from 208 in 2003, according to statistics released by the National Counterterrorism Center. The 2004 total includes 201 attacks in Iraq.

The totals raised questions about the administration's claims that it is winning the war on terrorism. A counterterrorism official, however, said new reporting methods made year-to-year comparisons meaningless.

....

The State Department said last week that it was ending the practice of including the statistics in its annual report about terrorism trends. Congress requires the State Department to produce the report.

more

<</SNIP>>

[rodeodance]

36. the Repugs FLIP_FLOPPED-- like they did with the Ethics committee

today.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

37. Jesus. We're not gonna release the terror report. We are.

We're going to make everyone traveling to Canada, Mexico and the Carribbean use passports. No we're not. Yes we are. :wtf: I think they make meds for this type of back and forth don't they??

[dxstone]

40. And on top of that...

"From now on, all citizens will be required to change their underwear three times a day!
Underwear will now be worn on the outside, so we can check."

Castro-like revolutionary leader turned crazed "new boss" in Woody Allen's Bananas
(back when Woody made me laugh...)
D
http://presidentevilonline.com

[Moderator]

41. kick