(JEB) Bush wants more information on Schiavo's collapse; call to 911

[sabra]

When will it be enough?
<<SNIP>>
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050616/APN/506161284

Bush wants more information on Schiavo's collapse; call to 911


The Associated Press
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush said Thursday he might ask a state attorney to investigate allegations that Terri Schiavo's husband waited more than an hour to call 911 after her 1990 collapse.

Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have previously said their son-in-law waited more than an hour to make the call. An autopsy report released Wednesday didn't address the allegation.

"There's some doubt about when she did collapse and how long it took ... for the 911 call to be made," Bush said. "Which I think is worthy of some investigation. I don't know what form it would take."

Bush said he might ask Bernie McCabe, state attorney for Pinellas-Pasco, to look into the issue, but that would have to wait until McCabe returned from vacation.

<</SNIP>>

[prole_for_peace]

1. OMG!! they just do not give up.

these people can't stand the fact that the autopsy proved them wrong.

[Fridays Child]

16. That's right. Take notes because this is how we need to do it, too.

No apologies, no surrender.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

40. Absolutely not.

No apologies? Check. No surrender? Check. Pander to power instead of truth? Never.

[The Stranger]

69. At this point, they must be removed from power.

Pander to what you wish.

[Cobalt Violet]

37. "The culture of life" cult demands that someone's head rolls.

What asses.

[Straight Shooter]

39. Then why not investigate her parents for contributing to her bulimia?

Surely they must have been emotionally abusive, otherwise why else would she have developed bulimia? No, wait, let's go after the grandparents for the way they raised her parents ...

Let's blame anyone but Terry. Sorry, it was her psychological condition. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. Great point

Yes, they were abusive. Her brother teased her and called her fat.

[TomPainesBones]

2. "Don't worry George,

I'll keep 'em distracted down here"

[Athame]

52. Bingo!

and welcome to DU! You're gonna fit in just fine here. :toast:

[Lochloosa]

89. Move to the head of the class..

Welcome to DU...

[melissaf]

3. sickening

Absolutely, positively, mind-blowingly, outrageously evil and low and crass. You think you've seen how low the Bushes can go, and they just keep digging deeper and deeper.

[KyndCulture]

4. Good lord... it goes on and on...

Poor woman, let her rest in peace.

[ewagner]

5. Okay...let's get this straight.....

JEB want and investigation into RUMORS that Terri's Husband waited an hour to call 9-1-1....but......

There CAN'T BE ANY INVESTIGATION INTO:

!. Why JEB raided the flight school in Palm Beach and confiscated all their records on the night of 9/11...

!. Why OFFICIAL MMINUTES of an OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT MEETING stating that the President of the United States was going to "fix" (aka "fudge" ) intelligence to go to war......

these bastards are sooo f-ing arrogant.

[TrogL]

6. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY????

Get OVER it already.

[shanti]

23. why?

well, it sure as hell takes the attention off the IMPORTANT news, doesn't it?

[VegasWolf]

7. These fuckin assholes never give up! nt

[sellitman]

8. This is great!

If the pukes didn't look like asses before this should just about cement that feeling in everyone who was sitting on the fence. What a pompous jerk!

[ogradda]

9. As long as he keeps this kind of shit stirred up

he's taking focus from his freak of a brother.

[onecent]

10. What a prick...I am sooo god dam sick of this administration.....

Damn I AM SICK OF THEM...

[still_one]

11. while your at it jebby boy

investigate what happened to joe scarborough's girlfriend, er, secretary, and you brother killing 1700+ Americans in Iraq

[meppie-meppie not]

12. ya well I want an investigation into the nanny killed in your driveway jeb

[soup]

51. It was his brother Marvin's sitter that died in the driveway.

What a memory jog that is, meppie-meppie not. I'd almost forgotten about it. A really strange incident, do remember that - and very, very little news coverage - then zap, gone from radar.

[meppie-meppie not]

101. that's right! thnx for the recall...nary an investigation into that one

[AlCzervik]

13. Is there anything else going on in Florida that requires his attention?

Why doesn't he spend the same amount of time of children's services?

[0007]

36. Rush's drug trial.....

[steve2470]

14. give it up Jeb. Geeze louise, go prepare for ....

OUR FUCKING HURRICANES THAT ARE COMING OUR WAY !!!!! damn :banghead:

:grr: :nuke: :rant:

[distantearlywarning]

15. Apparently there aren't any more important, pressing

issues in Florida for Jebby to worry about than the Schiavo debacle? For the love of God, MOVE ON, MORONS! It's over.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Don't these assholes ever just let things go?

[Mountainman]

17. Bush should shit or get off the pot. Charge Mr Schiavo with a crime or

leave him alone.

Michael Schiavo should sue Jeb for harassment.

[Double T]

18. These Desperate Bastards Will Do Anything To Draw Attention Away....

from the DSM. I wonder what Karl and his crew will conger up to draw attention away from Bush and the DSM?

[LightningFlash]

19. Hell there Jeb, you broke the law...

I know yet again.

http://www.votersunite.org/info/content/newmessup-17.asp


Karma seems to catch up to those who break the law....

[yellowcanine]

20. Can a governor be impeached or recalled in Florida? This is outrageous

behavior on Jeb's part. There can be no possible reason for this except Jeb's spite.

[LightningFlash]

21. Call for a recall vote.

Start a full-fledged recall vote and boycott through-out the streets of florida. Put this bastard right in the spotlight.

[creeksneakers2]

22. Do they think she spent an hour on the floor with no heartbeat

and was then brought back to life? Yes.

[Horse with no Name]

35. lol

Point....game....match!

She would not have been revived, in fact, rigor mortus would have set in. You CANNOT go an hour without a heartbeat,lol.

[Jacobin]

24. The man is certifiable

It's not even a good political move, as the rest of the repukes found out.

The man is completly off his rocker.

[lumpy]

25. Dubya's brother appears to be

suffering from the Bush family affliction, stupiditis. Perhaps Schiavo should pursue an harassment charge if this goes any further. There is something weird about Florida.

[BiggJawn]

26. Hey, Jeb! How's that D. James Kennedy guy taste?

"Not too bad, actually....HEY! Whattaya trying to pull???"

Not the same thing YOU been pulling, that's for sure.

It's been 15 years. WHAT could they charge him with? Murder? She lived longer than a year after whatever it was he was supposed to have done to her....

The Schindlers need to face up to the fact that even though she had the same sized brain, there was NO way Terri would ever become Governor of FloriDUH...

[gate of the sun]

27. please

these people Jeb are pathetic....They might lose their moment of rallying the crazy pro life people in the face of this report...that she was indeed brain dead. I feel sorry for this poor man being used my the right to further their cause when all he wanted to do was release his wife.

[MidwestTransplant]

28. He's running for President I guess

[True_Blue]

29. Lovin' it!

There goes his 2008 nomination!

[KC21304]

30. If her parents really believed this they wouldn't have

waited more than 5 years before they showed any disagreement with Michael. Only after Michael finally was convinced there was no hope for Terri's recovery did they dream up this BS.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. The entire Bush family is a cancer on this nation.

[shawmut]

32. what a LOON

:puke:

[Erika]

33. Bush must really be feeding the fundies

How funny. You would think if he cared about lives he'd look into his state's horrible record in family services.

[Amonester]

91. AND the more than 1,700 "wasted" by his PNAC criminal

pack for Big Oil & Carlyle already full pockets???

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[katamaran]

34. Jesus H. Fricking Christ

(smacks forehead)

[soup]

50. on a trailer hitch.

[Sparkly]

38. Don't these people have WORK to do?!?!? n/t

[Brundle_Fly]

41. Well One thing is now Certain.

Jeb aint ever, EVER going to be president.

[DanCa]

42. Leave her rest in peace

How much longer are these thugs I no longer consider them christain going to cash on her suffering?

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Saw Michael Schiavo's lawyer on MSNBC tonight

He said this claim is totally false. He said 911 records show Michael called 911 as soon as Terri collapsed and doctors at the ER could verify that.

[napi21]

45. Fine! Jeb just wants to keep the story alive. I suspect this was all

done in 1990 and her husband was investigated very closely. Let Jeb go, and maybe he'll piss of the entire state of Fla! I feel sure, he's going to piss of many people in the rest of the Country, so go for it Jeb! I don't ever want another Bush in the WH and you're doing a great job at making sure it's never going to be you!

[leesa]

46. Poor Mr Schaivo...being plagued by these horrible people.

[dArKeR]

47. When is a Jeb going to ask for an investiagtion into Ted Nugent molesting

children? Since Ted confessed to it and his daughters concurred. All on TV tape. All on a show called "Daughters of Rockers" seen on MTV or VH1. I wonder what was on the complete original directors tapes?

Since MJ investigation was launched because of his TV interview why isn't one launched into a man who admitted molestation and two eyewitnesses concurred to the statements.

Or does it work that Dems are investigated using millions of taxpayer dollars to uncover any wrong doing but Repukes are almost never investigated even when laws have been clearly broken.

[Mythsaje]

96. Oh, really?

This is interesting. I knew Nugent was a RW wacko (who never used drugs, according to him, which makes his wild-eyed stare even MORE frightening) but this actually adds a lot to the debate of how screwed up he really is.

I'd certainly like to know more about this, myself.

[NVMojo]

48. Jeb, deal with your own dysfunctional family issues first! ARSEHOLE!

:nopity:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

49. So Jebby, If you can't be right

get even?

What a prick.

[gauguin57]

53. Why doesn't he mind his own effing business ... and worry about

his own family. Like his drug-addict daughter, his shoplifting wife and his stalker/vandal son.

Shove it, Jeb.

[Gregorian]

54. PHONEY! If you really cared about life....

you'd give two seconds of attention to the people around the world who are alive, and STARVING!

And it's almost funny.

[Rainscents]

55. When you think you heard it all, here comes another one worst than

one before. He really is sick! How can FL stand this man? I have feeling, he didn't win the last election, I bet diebold gave it to him.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

56. JEB should just CLAMP-iT--->what an idiot-->but aren't all Bushies? N/T

[Pirate Smile]

57. Probe Sought in Terri Schiavo 911 Call (15 years ago! Jeb jumps back in)

Probe Sought in Terri Schiavo 911 Call

The Associated Press
Friday, June 17, 2005; 10:52 AM

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush asked a prosecutor Friday to investigate why Terri Schiavo collapsed 15 years ago, calling into question how long it took her husband to call 911 after he found her.

In a letter faxed to Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney Bernie McCabe, Bush said Michael Schiavo testified in a 1992 medical malpractice trial that he found his wife collapsed at 5 a.m., and he said in a 2003 television interview that he found her about 4:30 a.m. He called 911 at 5:40 a.m.

"Between 40 and 70 minutes elapsed before the call was made, and I am aware of no explanation for the delay," Bush wrote. "In light of this new information, I urge you to take a fresh look at this case without any preconceptions as to the outcome."

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment Friday from The Associated Press. In comments in The Miami Herald, he said Terri Schiavo would not have survived if her husband had not immediately called 911.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/17/AR2005061700350.html

[BlueEyedSon]

58. Maybe he can demand a feeding tube be stuck into her urn....?

[habitual]

59. hard to admit he's wrong

so hard in fact that he refuses to do it. He wants to now GET BACK at someone who successfully made him and the repubs look like complete idiots.

JEB: DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK FOR RATHER THAN YOURSELF!

[niceypoo]

60. They just don't know when to quit.....

The schaivo thing has already Killed Bush* in the polls, I say let them go after Michael Schaivo some more and really destroy themselves

[Ilsa]

62. Yeah, but that's more legal expense and heartache for him,

and that's not fair.

If any of these repukes found a beloved family member unconscious on the floor of their bathroom between midnight and six a.m. fifteen years ago, I bet they'd be hard-pressed to remember every detail exactly. This sort of thing is so unfair, calling on people to recount what happened fifteen years ago, minute by minute.

[Wickerman]

61. Wish he spent that much time worrying about all the kids missing

from his state's foster care servies.

Moran.

[habitual]

63. Very good point.

It becomes clear very quickly that this is being done out of "save-facing" and "retribution". Does JEB really care about the people of FLORIDA or is he like a little bully that didn't get what he wanted and has to now make someone PAY!

[FlaGranny]

68. Jeb is

the male version of his mother. He's sharp, he's a crook, he's evil, and he's ambitious.

The only reason Jeb isn't president now is because they needed more time to cover up his little "misdeeds" first.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

100. And how about that Voting List Purge...

We're looking into that, right?

[bushisanidiot]

64. AWOL Bush took longer to react on 9/11 when we were under attack

how many hours went by before pres. nosepicker took his thumb out of his ass and DID something?

How many died before he stopped joking about "bad pilots" and took it seriously?????!!!

[PDXWoman]

65. Side tracked

This is a ploy to divert attention away from the Downing Street Memo.

[Catfight]

66. That's because Jeb can relate to a vegetative state but not a compassion

state.

[converted_democrat]

67. Call him tell him how you feel. I did. 1-850-488-4441 Call if you can!

[bluedog]

70. Sept 7 2001....Martial Law in Florida

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida Governor Jeb Bush signed Executive Order 01-261 September 7, 2001, four days before the WTC tragedy of Sept. 11, which paves the way for a declaration of martial law in his state. The governor, in his EO, delegated to, “...the Adjutant General of the state of Florida all necessary authority....to order members of the Florida National Guard into Active Service.”

http://proliberty.com/observer/20011008.htm



we should be"probbing" this

[denverbill]

71. I hope Michael Schiavo sues these asswipes.

Maybe if Bush spent a bit more time worrying about his own family than Michael Schiavo's, his daughter wouldn't be in rehab.

[GiovanniC]

72. Probe Sought in Terri Schiavo 911 Call

If I was Michael Schiavo, I would unleash a hellish fury on these bastards.

Gov. Jeb Bush asked a prosecutor Friday to investigate why Terri Schiavo collapsed 15 years ago, calling into question how long it took her husband to call 911 after he found her.

In a letter faxed to Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney Bernie McCabe, Bush said Michael Schiavo testified in a 1992 medical malpractice trial that he found his wife collapsed at 5 a.m., and he said in a 2003 television interview that he found her about 4:30 a.m. He called 911 at 5:40 a.m.

"Between 40 and 70 minutes elapsed before the call was made, and I am aware of no explanation for the delay," Bush wrote. "In light of this new information, I urge you to take a fresh look at this case without any preconceptions as to the outcome."

<snip>

"It's absolutely preposterous," Felos (Michael Schiavo's attorney) said. "If he had waited 70 minutes she would have been dead."


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&e=1&u=/ap/20050617/ap_on_re_us/governor_schiavo

[merh]

73. I would sue the hell out of them for harassment

Gov Jeb - a stalker for the right wing! What an ass! :mad:

[Ysolde]

74. Damn these vultures!

I really, really hope that Michael Schiavo and all the judges that were slandered and threatened in this case go off and sue everyone involved (including the Schindlers)!

The Dems MUST hammer Jeb on this! It's not a good issue for the Rethugs.

[Rex_Goodheart]

75. Say...

How about providing a correct link?

Thanks.

[liberal N proud]

76. 15 years later? WTF?

One thing about this, they don't want to let it die and it will remain an embarrassment to the GOP.
Keep it up Jeb, prove you are a fool.

[SnoopDog]

77. Evilness runs deep in the bush family....And they are running our country

[OldLeftieLawyer]

78. I saw the parents and siblings last night

on "Countdown," as the other daughter - who is in a PVS of her own - read the "family's" statement demanding further investigation into the cause of Mrs. Schiavo's collapse all those years ago, and then, with absolutely no link of logic, demanding that Michael Schiavo give back the malpractice award money he got when he sued the doctor who had been treating his wife - all those years ago.

Interestingly, they were all bunched behind a podium with a big "National Right To Life" logo on it.

So now we know who's paying that "family" to continue to whore their dead daughter and to continue slandering the name of a good and decent man.

[Beetwasher]

79. Well, I Know If I Found My Wife Collapsed I Would Check My Watch First

So I would know exactly what time it was and so 15 years later I would remember everything exactly as it happened. I mean, it's not like I would be frantic or anything, so I should be able to remember everything, exactly and to the exact minute, even 15 years later... :eyes:

[Bozita]

80. Hey Florida folks! ... Jeb's paying for it with YOUR TAX MONEY

tenth degree abuse of power

[RobinA]

84. I Missed It

Is there some law that requires a layperson to call 911 within a certain amount of time after a person becomes sick? This is a real can or worms. I'm sure the EMTs are gonna love a world where, in order to avoid prosecution, people call 911 every time somebody faints.

[peekaloo]

81. Was his daughter ever convicted of a felony? Ya know writing

her own 'scripts, isn't that unlawful?

Or did she take the job from that computer company that offered her a nice salary?

Maybe an investigative probe is needed.


Sorry to change the focus of the thread but Jebthro needs more shit thrown in his face.

[bluedog]

82. CONTACT NUMBERS for JEBBY BOY

phone:[phone]

fax: [phone]

e-mail: [e-mail]


give him a piece of your mind.when this case was going on his mails were swaped and e-mails shut down...lets get moving and do it again........

[Maddy McCall]

83. Give it up, Jeb. You're beating a dead horse.

[boohootwo]

85. SMOKE SCREEN ALERT!!! n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

86. I want more information about election fraud in Florida

. . . and what role Governor Bush played in it.

[Johonny]

87. How

many investigation have there been, How many trials? I mean is the average person on the street suppose to believe that 15 yrs later some how some amazing fact of the 9-11 call will come out? Jeb has passed into the insane.

[rocktivity]

88. No problem--what the FL Dems should do

is call for an investigation of Jeb's sending the state police to kidnap Terri from the hospice BEFORE receiving a stay of the court order that prevented it. Has a nice impeachable ring to it.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Danieljay]

90. Check out the upper left of this link from yahoo...euthanasia/ass. suicide

Its listed under Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide..

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/Assisted_Suicide/

[UCLA Dem]

92. Gov. Bush wants probe of Schiavo collapse (WTF?????)

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (AP) -- Gov. Jeb Bush asked a prosecutor Friday to investigate why Terri Schiavo collapsed 15 years ago, calling into question how long it took her husband to call 911 after he found her.

In a letter faxed to Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney Bernie McCabe, Bush said Michael Schiavo testified in a 1992 medical malpractice trial that he found his wife collapsed at 5 a.m., and he said in a 2003 television interview that he found her about 4:30 a.m. He called 911 at 5:40 a.m.

"Between 40 and 70 minutes elapsed before the call was made, and I am aware of no explanation for the delay," Bush wrote. "In light of this new information, I urge you to take a fresh look at this case without any preconceptions as to the outcome."

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment Friday from The Associated Press. In comments in The Miami Herald, he said Terri Schiavo would not have survived if her husband had not immediately called 911.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/17/schiavo.governor.ap/index.html

Let it go for God's sake!!!!!

[Roland99]

93. Anyone want to check Jeb's phone records for calls from Dobson?

[Guckert]

95. he wont be happy until he drives all the semi-sane people from the GOP.

Let him keep the embarrassment of the GOP idiots on the front page.

[VRine]

102. Another Diversion?

Well, the Michael Jackson trial is over.

Horror of Horrors if the public would begin to focus on the Downing St Memo or the economy's slow descent into the toilet.

[question everything]

94. He's probably scared to death that no one will call on him

when he collapses

[spunky]

97. WTF?!?!? If there was evidence of wrongdoing, wouldn't it have been

investigated, oh, I don't know 15 years ago when she collapsed?

Gah, I cannot take anymore of this shit. Michael Schiavo did nothing wrong. Why can't they just accept that her collapse was "God's will" or something and let the poor man finally get on with his life. How much more F-ing pathetic can Jeb possibly get? Seriously? That's not a rhetorical question.

[Felix Mala]

98. He must think further government intrusion is in order. It was so

effective earlier. Can you sue a governor for harassment?

[daleo]

99. Micheal Shiavo was right about everything.

That is unforgivable in Bush eyes, so he will have to be hounded and slandered some more.

[enigmatic]

103. Let him do it

Seriously, 3 things will happen here; Michael Shivao gets cleared, he sues them all for slander and wins an enormous settlement, all politicians that has his or her name attached to this will be irreparably harmed, and Jebby's political career goes down the tubes.

I thought Steven Harper of the CPC up here was the King of idiotic political moves, but Jebby is closing fast.

[rexcat]

104. These f--king idiots need a life...

and they also need to stay people's personal matters.

[rocktivity]

105. Sore loser talk, Jeb

Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have previously said their son-in-law waited more than an hour to make the call. An autopsy report released Wednesday didn't address the allegation.

And why wasn't the allegation investigated when the parents made it? What proof do they have--were they at the scene? I think a doctor would have noticed if Terri's brain had been without oxygen for the better part of an hour. Are the Florida police that incompetent, or did they dismiss the charge as pure vindictiveness on the Schindlers' part?

(Jeb) Bush said the medical examiner shouldn't determine if there was a gap. "This is really out of his realm," Bush added. "It's not a medical examiner's job to determine why there would be a gap if there was one."

If someone medical isn't qualified to make such a determination, who is?

Terri Schiavo died March 31 from dehydration after her feeding tube was disconnected despite unsuccessful efforts by Bush to keep her alive.

She was NOT alive--she died when her brain did years before, and her brain stem was merely being kept functional on life support. The difference between the two is what lay at the crux of the entire matter. And this paper calls itself an "information leader?" Sheesh.

:headbang:
rocknation

[kskiska]

106. The Schindlers never had any complaints

while they thought they were in the running for half of the settlement $$$. If they had shared in the money, would they be giving it back right now? At any rate, I read that the insurance company that paid out is defunct. Moot point.

[Tommymac]

107. J* is a corpse eater. Shameful. nt

[The Night Owl]

108. The Bush family has been embarrassed by the Schiavo deal...

So, now the Bush family wants to get even.

[FLBlueFaced]

109. Why can't we

just let this poor woman rest in peace?

[MODemocrat]

110. Imagine how much this is going to cost Florida

Again, they are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. This is of course to try and prove that they were not crazy for getting involved in this 15 year old private matter in the first place. What are her parents thinking? :shrug: :argh: :spank:

[dave29]

111. statute of limitations?

does this not apply here?

[dave29]

112. Time to start calling this for what it is: a witch hunt.

The Republicans want to burn this man alive.

[bluedog]

113. Statute of Limitations.............

Statute of Limitations.............


Even if Michael Schiavo admitted he delayed calling 911, the statute of limitations would have expired long ago on any crime arising from it.

"I can't imagine what in the world he could be charged with," said Mark Lipinski, a Bradenton lawyer who is not involved in the case but has followed it closely. "So the governor's request sounds more like a political request rather than a law enforcement request because there is absolutely nothing they could do."


http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/18/Tampabay/Husband_s_ti ...

[rocktivity]

115. Working link

link

"What we're trying to get a handle on is what really happened that night," said David Gibbs III, the Schindlers' attorney. "Why did a healthy, 26-year-old girl collapse like this? And there's only one witness to the event. And with all these inconsistencies, we're trying to get some answers."
Healthy? She was fighting BULIMIA!!!!

:headbang:
rocknation

[skip fox]

114. Gee, I think this is a great story, a great stance for Jeb to take!

It's right up there with W.'s insistence on pushing Social Security reform including private accounts.


(Especially since the public hates their stances on both issues and the trap doors of opinion are opening up beneath their feet! Let them roast in their own sour juices!)