USNews: Cheney resignation rumors fly (!!!!!)

[grytpype]

Yep.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/051018/18whwatch.htm

Sparked by today's Washington Post story that suggests Vice President Cheney's office is involved in the Plame-CIA spy link investigation, government officials and advisers passed around rumors that the vice president might step aside and that President Bush would elevate Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

"It's certainly an interesting but I still think highly doubtful scenario," said a Bush insider. "And if that should happen," added the official, "there will undoubtedly be those who believe the whole thing was orchestrated – another brilliant Machiavellian move by the VP."

Said another Bush associate of the rumor, "Yes. This is not good." The rumor spread so fast that some Republicans by late morning were already drawing up reasons why Rice couldn't get the job or run for president in 2008.

"Isn't she pro-choice?" asked a key Senate Republican aide. Many White House insiders, however, said the Post story and reports that the investigation was coming to a close had officials instead more focused on who would be dragged into the affair and if top aides would be indicted and forced to resign.

(more at article)

[acmavm]

1. Geez, I don't think I can scrape up all the optism necessary to swallow

this one. I can certainly wish it were so. But I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting.

[corbett]

156. That's The Right Choice For Now

Besides, we all know that Halliburton is ready and willing to take him back. After all, the value of the stock options in his Halliburton plan have risen in value more than 3000% percent this year!

I'm holding my breath, too, and continuing to fight the good fight.

http://www.dccc.org/campaignforchange

[Cactus44]

2. Fun to think about, but VERY unlikely. n/m

.

[maximovich]

4. lol....awwwwwwwwwwwwww (nt)

[wryter2000]

31. Welcome to DU

:hi:

I also think it's unlikely. Let's remember that Agnew resigned before Nixon did.

Major deja vu over here.

[greygandalf]

55. Fun exactly how? Does DU see Condi as an improvement? n/t

[GOTV]

58. No

[saigon68]

115. This an Improvement?

A horses ass would be better

[Catch22Dem]

144. I think this person ment Cheney stepping down is fun to think about

but highly unlikely.

[Norwood]

147. its like choosing between...

A shit burger or a vomit filled pie

[JokingClown]

153. Would you rather cheney NOT resign?...

"Fun exactly how? Does DU see Condi as an improvement? n/t"

Would you rather cheney NOT resign? It would be fun to see the administration suffer yet another (and VERY PUBLIC) embarrassment.

[Vogon_Glory]

83. Just Imagine--Cheney In Agenew

Just imagine--the incumbent Veep in "Ag-e-new" and having to resign. Imagine the corporate media whores recording the info on their blackberries and/or in their "Spiro" notepads. The incumbent regime would have to Hunt up more rationalizations for their actions, put the "Nix" on denials, and try to keep the "liddy" on further rumors.

[stevedeshazer]

136. What does "Ag-e-new" mean?

I don't get it. :shrug:

[RedEarth]

140. That's a reference to Nixon's VP...Spiro Agnew...

After Nixon and Agnew were elected to a second term, Agnew became the focus of an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's office in Maryland for financial irregularities while he held state office. Rather than face trial, Agnew resigned and entered a plea of no contest to charges of evading income tax. He was sentenced to three years probation and fined $10,000. After he left office Agnew avoided publicity and went into business as an international broker. In 1981 he was ordered by a Maryland court to repay more than $248,000 to cover bribes he took while in state office.

Agnew was the second vice president to resign from office -- the first, John C. Calhoun, resigned to take a seat to become a U.S. senator... Nixon chose Gerald Ford to be Agnew's replacement as vice president... In 1976 Agnew published a novel, The Canfield Decision... Political columnists William Safire and Pat Buchanan used to write speeches for Agnew

http://www.answers.com/topic/spiro-agnew

[stevedeshazer]

146. I know you're trying to help me

I appreciate it.

But Spiro Agnew was VP when I was in high school!

I just don't get the reference.

Thanks for trying to help, though.

[LifeDuringWartime]

148. agony + agnew = ag-e-new

i think thats what was meant

[Vogon_Glory]

155. Bingo!

Exactly. Bingo!

Thank you!

Now, here's what I'm wondering...will that pale imitation put out by the Evil Empire called Conservative Underground have the intestinal fortitude to lift our clever repartee (even if it is intellectual property theft) and post it to astound and educate their still-benighted readership, or will they avoid the light lest it interfere with their cherished delusions?

[Voltaire99]

142. hee hee (nt)

[...of J.Temperance]

3. Is this like those "Is Cheney dead?" things?

You know, when Cheney disappears yet AGAIN, people start asking "Is Cheney dead?"

[goforit]

33. Brain ischemia, yes.....but that pacemaker keeps on ticking.

[gkhouston]

5. what difference would it really make?

I wouldn't be surprised if Fitzgerald's cooking up a little Fitzmas present for Cheney and Rice. Go ahead and shuffle the deck chairs if it amuses you, fellas.

[SheilaT]

28. It would make an enormous difference.

I don't know if you can remember when Nixon's VP, Spiro Agnew resigned. He was on the edge of being indicted for taking bribes when still governor of Maryland. He eventually pleaded nolo contendere
Agnew would have been even worse as president than Nixon. But now Gerald Ford became the new vice president, and it became safe to impeach RMN. I realize that the huge difference back then was a House and Senate in Democratic hands, but Nixon's impeachment only became certain when the Republican leadership finally lost faith with him and told him he should resign first.

I rather doubt that will happen with the current administration, but who knows.

Personally, my two favorite words of all time are: Unindicted Co-Conspirator.

[goforit]

38. The difference between Condi and Ford though is she too is criminal!!

And I don't believe Ford was directly connected.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Fitzgerald indicts her as well
just right after Bush appoints her.

[SheilaT]

157. You can't try to guess

who would replace Cheney, in the distant chance that he actually resigned, by looking at what happened some 32 years ago.

In any case, whoever is tapped to be the new VP does have to go through a confirmation process. The reason Ford was chosen, it seems, is precisely that he was something of a non-entity, and it seems Nixon felt safe in selecting him, that he was so a nobody that they wouldn't dare impeach him if Ford would be his replacement. He was wrong. It was precisely because Ford was so innocuous that he made a good replacement.

Indeed, Ford probably would have won in 1976 had he not pardoned Nixon, which he did about a month after taking office. It's commonly believed that a deal was struck, that he agreed to become VP on the condition that he would, if necessary, pardon Nixon from any crimes. Ford has always denied that.

Personally, I was among those so furious at the pardon that I finally registered and voted for the first time in 1976. I still think Nixon should have died in prison.

[gkhouston]

61. I do remember when Agnew resigned.

But instead of getting someone like Ford, won't we get Hastert if Cheney resigns? How much of an improvement would that be?

[King Coal]

79. That would be Hugh!

[Flint-oid]

6. USNEWS: White House Watch: Cheney resignation rumors fly

USNEWS Sparked by today's Washington Post story that suggests Vice President Cheney's office is involved in the Plame-CIA spy link investigation, government officials and advisers passed around rumors that the vice president might step aside and that President Bush would elevate Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

[Catherine Vincent]

7. If true, I guess McCain is a shoe-in?

[davidinalameda]

74. McCain can't be appointed at VP

the Republicans would lose that seat in the senate

[cascadiance]

84. Maybe Chuck Hagel?

Though his ties to voting machine companies might hurt him later. At least he's in a state where they wouldn't lose a Republican seat in the Senate... Might also serve to assuage some of the Republicans in the congress now that feel they are being lead too much by those supporting the war. Someone like Hagel they might feel would support their getting re-elected better later.

There are so many candidates mentioned here like Condi, Hastert, etc. that are all tainted with potential scandals. If the Republicans want to hold onto any power after 2006 elections (if things start to really get ugly with this investigation, etc.), they'd be wise to appoint a "bullet-proof" VP now, which would serve to keep them in control of the White House. Anyone else who might get impeached could open up the door for Pelosi taking over in 2006.

[davidinalameda]

88. Hagel has been speaking out against Bush

and the war

don't see that one

I figure it would be a cabinet member with no further political ambitions

[calimary]

131. Hagel's pro-choice, too, so he'd be anathema to them.

He's one of the few I regard as slightly less vile than the rest. SLIGHTLY.

contradicta I'd doubt - because she, too, is pro-choice, plus, she's female and black, and while the republi-CONS claim they're reaching out to African Americans now, and they KNOW they need help with that particular voting bloc, I seriously doubt whether they'd have the fortitude to try that one. The fundie-wackos probably wouldn't have it, just because of the choice issue. And who knows, as a member of the WHIG, Ms. Mushroom Cloud might be in hot water herself. She certainly deserves it.

[Zynx]

133. Hagel isn't pro-choice as far as I know.

Neither is McCain.

[NMDemDist2]

154. good point! I hadn't thought about that angle. n/t

[daleo]

8. Cheney or Rice?

It's like hemlock or strychnine.

[Justitia]

9. HAHAHA - TWO huge whoppers rolled into one!

They think we are seriously stupid.
Their "base" maybe, but not us in the Reality-Based Community.

[MADem]

10. Orchestrated, indeed

This well could have been a long term fallback position, a just in case plan. Sacrifice Cheney on the altar, let him scurry off to his brand new MANSION just up the road in St Michaels, MD, and permit him to continue his nefarious work behind the scenes, while installing some fucking idiot, like say Condi, in his place (thinking that putting Condi in the VP slot will boost his rankings with black folk).

[longship]

11. Not likely. And if so, not likely Condi.

They would not put Condi in as Veep. She's implicated in the WMD scandal just as deeply as Crashcart. She may even be a target.

If Crashcart resigns, which is highly unlikely, they would probably pull somebody out of a repug house or senate seat in a state with a Repug gov. (That's what I would do.)

[yodermon]

75. d'oh

then not Liddy Dole as was my prediction.

[IndyJones]

12. Interesting rumor!

[Bumblebee]

13. making history -- the first female VP. Whoopy! Then they hope

she will go straight to being pres in 2008. I suspect it is their thinking, actually, if Cheney resigns. I also suspect they now want him to resign -- and are hopeful that it's just his office that's affected and Rove is spared. That's why it's so important for Rove not to be spared...

[AlGore-08.com]

45. It's an interesting question: IF Cheney resigns, who would agree to be VP?

IF Cheney resigns, would anybody in GOP benefit from playing the Ford to Smirk's Nixon?

Would Guiliani or McCain be strong enough to benefit from stepping into the White House (pretending to 'Clean House'), or would they be tainted the way Ford was?

Interesting question, IF Cheney and/or Smirk resigns. IF.

[NYC Liberal]

57. Neither Giuliani nor McCain want to be associated with Bush now

because they are most likely running in 2008. By that time "Bush" will be a bad word, and nobody connected with him will be elected. So they are gonna stay as far away as possible, IMHO.

[AlGore-08.com]

160. I'm not so sure... the way the press loves McCain & Rudy

They might be portrayed as doing it out of patriotism...

And they'd still have the GOP controlled Congress to pass popular (or popular sounding) legislation to prove that they did it all for the little guy, 'cause they're the Real Republicans, the Real Compassionate Conservatives...

Might fall out that way...

[DefenseLawyer]

51. No chance

I am sure they have polled Condi among likely primary voters in the "solid south". Mehlman's disingenuous mea culpa aside, the southern strategy is alive and well in Republican politics. No chance Condi fits into their plan.

[cyberpj]

14. I believe it's possible - 2% BLACK APPROVAL = CONDI FOR VP

Especially if Cheney knows he's cooked.

Then scoot her right into 2008 campaign against Hillary.

[...of J.Temperance]

29. Yes but the majority of blacks don't CONSIDER Condi as being black

They consider her like they consider all black Republican's, as a sell out to their race. She's actually a white man that's trapped in a black woman's body.

Picking Rice as VP would turn that 2% up into maybe 10% and not much more. Also, the black people aren't stupid, they'd see picking Rice at this moment EXACTLY for what it is...post-Katrina COMPLETE desperation by Junior, they know that Junior's mentality is FAR more in line with the Ku Klux Klan, he believes the same things that those pigs do, I think we have ample evidence of that now.

[cyberpj]

77. Your points are well-taken, but assume Junior doesn't have a brain

and I can see him doing this.

That said, I agree with you.

[jaysunb]

112. You are soooo right !

We (blacks) recognized Clarence Thomas for what he was, but of course, no one cared. He was simply another slap in the face of an entire people.
Condi is disliked equally as much and maybe more. This time around there'd be more than just a lot of neighborhood barbarshop anger. I believe even the CBC would come out strong against her. Her hands are bloody....

If Bush has to replace Cheney, it will be w/ a southern white male. Bank on it !

[SupplyConcerns]

128. How easily manipulated are black people? I don't think so.

Just because she's black, she's considered "one of us", despite shopping for shoes while NO drowned? And just generally supporting the Repubs economic policies.

[Nimrod2005]

15. I can't take it anymore, this is too much - Has anyone

been able to monitor response on the enemy's blog?

[goforit]

43. It is nauseating.....One bad person to the next!

[katty]

96. No way on CON-di!

[Hawkeye-X]

16. If Cheney has to resign

then Chimp has to resign his entire maladministration, concede the ORIGINAL fraud to Gore, and order himself sent to the Hague to wait for his fate.

[brainshrub]

23. Such a move would require bravery and foresight.

Bush has neither.

[Seansky]

17. rice, man, things keep getting weird..would this open or close doors for

hillary woman as p?

[mattclearing]

18. They are trying to save Bush. This Cheney talk is a distraction.

They are trying to throw Cheney to the wolves in order to preserve the administration.

[goforit]

46. Yep they are back stabbing within!!!

[electropop]

49. That's exactly what I'm thinking.

This is the rumored Bush-Cheney feud breaking through to the surface. Clearly the tension in the White House is thick enough to cut (or backstab) with a knife.

[shadowknows69]

19. Ok

We are all losing our minds over this and it's not healthy. I'm imposing a self exle on..um...myself. from DU until Fitz speaks. See you on the other side.

[TalkingDog]

30. Stick around...it's like staying sober while all your friends get stoned.

It can be entertaining if you don't get caught up in it.

[grytpype]

56. Don't bogart that indictment!

[On the Road]

81. Yeah, and File Another One

just like the other one!

:smoke:

[goforit]

47. Great point!

[aquart]

98. Nonsense. Laughter is healthy.

Even derisive laughter.

[rodeodance]

20. with all this hype, cheney can claim the high ground when not indicted. we

need to be careful.

[Barrett808]

21. Savor the suspense, everyone. This is just a delicious week.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm.

[CottonBear]

22. The repubs don't like Condi 'cause they think she's pro--choice?

I'm so confused. Does anyone know where Rice stands on this issue?
I thought they'd love her 'cuse she's pro-war, pro-oil and pro-corporations.

[TrogL]

63. If she's pro-choice they'll lose their base

What's left of it.

[longship]

24. A preemptive action?

I don't see these guys taking a preemptive action like this. If something like this does happen it will be after indictments are handed down. Having Crashcart resign before would be a tacit admission of guilt. These people are not into admitting anything, let alone guilt.

[goforit]

25. Yah bring in Condi!!!...The other accomplice to the CRIME!!!!!

[grytpype]

26. America, meet your new vice-president....

Hell, I would be relieved to see a grown-up in the White House at last.

[Megahurtz]

70. That's Frightening. n/t

[One_Life_To_Give]

27. Ala Ford; Can you say, President Rice?

Then they could claim two firsts.

[Bridget Burke]

32. He could use his health as an excuse.

Then, in an unprecedented show of bipartisanship, W selects Leiberman as the new VP.

As the stuff piles higher & Shrub is forced out of office, President Leiberman supplies pardons all 'round.

(Sorry, just a recurring nightmare.)

[wryter2000]

40. Yikes!

You're onto something with that. :scared: :hide:

[Giant Robot]

150. If he were to resign

I would believe it would seriously be for health reasons than any criminal misconduct. This is an administration that does not admit mistakes and feels themselves above the law, so I do not see a grand jury as being really frightening for this group of people. If this rumor had any truth to it, I would say that his health would be the real reasons for it. But it's just a rumor. Nothing more.

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. I can't wait for that selfish Western-style Libertarian to get packing.

I hope he takes his personal philosophies into prison with him.

[Bumblebee]

35. and, I am sure, it's a highly controlled trial balloon

[ewagner]

36. See? DU isn't the only place

where rumors fly freely.

I imagine there is so much apprehension in DC right now that it wouldn't take much to start and spread even the wildest of rumors....

[TalkingDog]

127. Well, I don't think the rumors of * sex change operation are true anyway.

But one does hear things.

Why? What have you heard?

[newscott]

37. Yeah, but what if they both get indicted?

[silvermachine]

39. It'll never happen...

...although they are both equally tainted and culpable.

[indepat]

41. Just who we need, someone who can vividly evoke mushroom cloud images,

someone who championed a pre-emptive war based on intelligence skewed to gain support at best and outright lies at worst.

[goforit]

52. From boogie man Cheney to Boogie woman Rice.....

"Lions, tigers and bears....Oh my!"

[spindrifter]

42. Yah, sure!

Condi goes to VEEP and--uh, it's Karen Hughes as Secy. of State? Is that why she was practicing how to speak in front of Muslims? I'd actually rather have Dicklet just stay wherever the f*ck he is--a known danger to us all.
Or is this really because Joe Wilson is planning to sue Dicklet and he needs to quit in order to work with his attys. to protect his name and purse?

[Bumblebee]

50. Wilson is planning to sue Bush as well, if I am not mistaken

[goforit]

53. Now that is the Greatest idea I've heard yet!!!!

[antonialee839]

92. It's about time Monkey is put under oath. He's avoided it long enough.

[antonialee839]

He ought to take the whole cluster of them to court.

[Moosepoop]

168. "Dicklet"

:rofl: Love that!! I'm stealing it, (if you don't mind)?

[Gregorian]

44. Hey, maybe they aren't superhuman (subhuman) after all.

I finally opened my pessimistic mouth today on another post. Maybe this infection is almost over.

[CANDO]

48. In a scary sort of way, the GOP will like this move.

It will take tons of heat off the administration while lining up a black woman to fend off Hillary's run in 2008. Don't put anything past these people.

[RedEarth]

54. WWSD ..... What Would Spiro Do?

[Gregorian]

62. Spiro, Spiro, you're a ZERO!

Ah, the good old days.

:)

[CottonBear]

67. LOL! That would be a great bumper sticker!

What would Spiro do?

Unfortunately, most American wouldn't know what the fuck it means. :(

[yodermon]

78. anagram:

SPIRO AGNEW
GROW A PENIS

:hide:

[cascadiance]

89. Hey Cheney! Go Spiro Yourself!

[nashville_brook]

59. !

[Tight_rope]

60. OMG!....I'm having labor pains! And I'm not pregnant!...n/t

[chapel hill dem]

64. Actually, I have heard the Cheney resignation/Rice as VP rumor since the

2004 election. The rumor had his resignation based on his declining health, however, and not on any wrongdoing. Same outcome, different reason...

[grace0418]

65. Resignation isn't good enough. Then he'll just become a

"consultant" which means he'll be doing the same thing with a different title. Nope, that fucker needs to be rotting in jail with the rest of them. Locked up for good.

[meganmonkey]

66. It is already waaaay too hard NOT to get my hopes raging up

Oh man you people are going to give me a fricking heart attack....

:freak:

[smoogatz]

68. "President Bush would elevate Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice."

Why not? She's been elevating him for five and-a-half years now.

Ba-da-boom!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

69. if selected, there would be reverse sexism at work.

Recall when the nasty newsies in NY were predicted to attack Hillary with fangs, pitchforks and rabid attack dogs? nothing happened. They saw a prepared smart lady who not only held her own, but seems to have done quite well as the junior senator from NY.

When (if?) condi is selected to replace Heartless, not only will she be treated with kid gloves, but she will be fawned over inappropriately. African American AND female? forget her ineptitude, inability and idiocies. Those will temporarily be cemented over.

[Peace Patriot]

87. Hm-m-m. And Andy Young has already positioned himself to be her...

...lapdog. Saw him on C-SPAN in the Senate corridor during the Rice hearing, saying, "What do these people (Democrats) think they are DOING, criticizing a black woman!!??"

I swear to God. Andy Young. Andy Young!

(--made me feel reeeeal sad about him and MLK, whom I volunteered for in Alabama back in 1965.)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

121. it is sad that our country is so immature in so many ways. heck,

we elected bush. our press might crawl back into its shell rather than peer at her with the necessary jaundiced eye and poisoned pen.

I am not a big hillary fan, but she is a qualified, capable and intelligent senator. From what I hear in NY, locals are glad she is there. More power to her and them.

As for condicane, remind me who was the head of the NSC - the top security and administrative office leading up to 9/11? who managed to escape all scrutiny for her multiple missteps?
During her reign of terra at NSC, just who was also assigned to "fix" Iraq, taking a uber-Bremer position for at least 8 months? and who failed miserably at that post? And managed to escape all scrutiny for her additional multiple misteps? funny how that item keeps falling off of her resume.

I suppose I can support one decision she made - to get rid of Bolton and get him the hell from underfoot. By supporting him for UN rep, she killed two birds with one stone. Pity America has to suffer as a result.

[Mike03]

71. This makes me highly suspicious

It doesn't really sound like Bush's modus operandi. Hopefully, I'm wrong--I just hope we aren't being set up for some major disappointment when the indictments are handed down. My father always says, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is."

[Felix Mala]

72. They won't do it under a cloud, but I can see a "health" emergency

causing Cheney to resign so GW can pray and deliberate for several days before God tells him who to run for Pres. in '08.

[knitter4democracy]

73. That's the scenario my hubby came up with last year.

He's been saying that Cheney will step down and that Rice will become VP, giving her the heads-up for the next election.

How odd.

[TacticalPeek]

76. What other choice does he have? Zip.

(True headline. Back in those days, you could believe the New York Times.)

[goforit]

80. While this is going on, Is anyone keeping their eyes on the DLC's

desire to replace the Bush thugs with the same Bush
thug replacements like Kerry/Hillary/Biden???

They will continue Iraq/Syria/Korea and succumb to
the same Corporate entities....

Pharmaceuticals
Oil/coal
Auto
Military Contracting
etc.......

Remember...."the Aspens are turning, yet are deep rooted"

so watch out!!!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

82. Rice would never get approved by Congress

If Cheney resigns, Bush can nominate anyone he wants but they still have to get Congressional approval and it will have to be someone acceptable to the Dems as well as the Repugs.

[0007]

139. Are you sure? I hope your right.

My question now is who will the VP be? Condoleezz Rice? That would put her a step away from being the president. I think she may be criminally involved in the Downing Street Memo.

I also wonder if this is gonna save Rove and the others?

[lovuian]

85. Whoo Hoo!!! It makes sense Cheney has always been the

target!!! And they need him out and want him out and that means the military are rebelling!!!

Condaleeza Rice is a poor choice she is very involved in this too!!!

[unblock]

86. say hello to VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIET MIERS!

THAT's how the shrubsters work.

she gets rejected for what he nominates her for, so he'll just appoint her to another, often higher profile, post.

[IndianaGreen]

90. The problem with this scenario is that Condi Rice was part of the

White House Iraq Group whose job was to sell the war to the public. She was involved in criminal wrongdoing!

[Massachusetts]

91. "USNews: Cheney resignation rumors fly (!!!!!)"

Must be this is all getting to the DICKS health.

[Julius Civitatus]

93. DICK CUT TO SIZE!!!

:rofl:

[grytpype]

95. DICK VISIBLY SHAKEN IN PUBLIC

[Julius Civitatus]

97. DICK PRESSED FOR INFO

[VegasWolf]

100. Dick squeezed repeatably for information. nt

[Julius Civitatus]

102. DICK IS PULLING OUT!!!

(rimshot)

Thank you very much. I'll be here all week!

[Julius Civitatus]

104. UNDER PRESSURE, DICK SNEAKS THROUGH BACK DOOR

Thank you very much. My job here is done.

:evilgrin:

[Jacobin]

106. "Courtous Interruptus"

to mangle a phrase.

:woohoo:

[Julius Civitatus]

109. DICK LEAKED!!!!

YEAH!!!!!

:evilgrin:

[sofa king]

110. DICK HANGS

[Julius Civitatus]

111. DICK FINGERED IN LEAK PROBE

:toast:

[sofa king]

116. DICK LICKED

[Julius Civitatus]

117. BUSH WITHOUT DICK

[Julius Civitatus]

118. DICK DEEP IN STICKY MESS

[sofa king]

120. DICK: CONTROL DISSAPOINTS BUSH

[Julius Civitatus]

123. EXPERTS AGREE: BUSH UNSATISFIED WITH DICK OUT

[Julius Civitatus]

134. BUSH UNHAPPY WITH DICK'S PERFORMANCE

Just a slight variation on the previous one

[Historic NY]

138. I like your various headlines......

you seem to have a theme going.

[sofa king]

143. BUSH HAS HANDLE ON DICK

Or how 'bout these, which I don't think should be shouted in a subject:

BUSH CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT DICK
DICK OUT, BUSH LEFT QUIVERING
BUSH: I NEED DICK

[Julius Civitatus]

161. AFTER LEAK PROBE, DICK EJECTS PREMATURELY

:patriot:

[darkism]

165. DICK SHRINKS INTO OBSCURITY AFTER PUBLIC SHAME

Had to get in on the fun. :D

[cureautismnow]

99. Isn't there some kind of exposure law for that sort of exhibition?

:evilgrin:

[Nostradammit]

162. F*LMAO!!!

Damn, that struck me funny!

[nookiemonster]

113. DICK STEPPED ON HIMSELF

:)

eom

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

132. Bush appears Dickless in public. n/t

[Julius Civitatus]

135. DICK STUCK IN A HOLE

:patriot:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

137. OK, you're still the king. n/t

[happydreams]

149. Dick Cheney before he dicks YOU!!

[darkism]

164. Replied to wrong message, ignore.

Meant to put this under the "headlines tree."

[carolinalady]

94. Even slight mention on CNN. n/t

[Miss Chybil]

101. Bush's Life Insurance Policy = Dick Cheney, but Condi would work, too.

Maybe, he's not so dumb, after all.

[Shine]

103. Hmmm...Time will tell....

:popcorn:

[onenote]

105. I know who the replacement would be and its not Condi

Its Daddy. That's right George H.W. Bush. He's not a threat to any of the possible 2008 candidates and therefore, his selection would not cause any divisions within the party. He's loyal. The public would perceive him as having the experience and qualifications to take over in the event something happened to chimpy.

He's the one.

Of course, the rumors about Cheney are probably total BS, so this is just fantasy political football.

onenote

[thinkingwoman]

107. another trial balloon

drifting by.

Condi? No thanks. Nice try Rove.

[thinkingwoman]

108. P.S. It would be fun

watching confirmation hearings for Condi though...in a sick, sad, political junkie twisted way. :eyes:

[superconnected]

114. much preferable to marshall law.

Which I would expect before that corrupt administration would give up power.

[MiniMe]

119. Wouldn't the Senate have to approve any choice?

And if they do, is it a supermajority approval needed or just a majority? Just curious what the rules would be in this instance. I remember Ford getting in, but I don't remember the exact process.

[onenote]

122. Senate and House

Article XXV, Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

[MiniMe]

124. Thanks! n/t

[Peace Patriot]

125. Interesting thought--Lieberman...

I figured Diebold and ES&S would install a War Democrat in '08, to start taking the rap for Bush Jr.'s financial and foreign policy disasters, get a Draft, keep the war going, and manage the bread lines, but I didn't think of Lieberman--was thinking more along the lines of Hillary--and then, when the war profiteering corporate news monopolies have gotten us to forget all about Bush Jr., and blame all our miseries on Hillary (or whoever), they would at last install the serious Nazi, Jeb, in '12.

End of our democracy.

But I didn't think the installation of a War Democrat would happen like this, precipitously, as a result of scandal, by choice of Bush Jr. And I thought that, with someone like Hillary, we would have a chance to get rid of Diebold and ES&S election theft machines (considering that even War Dems have to pay lip service to good government and transparent elections).

Lieberman. Ye gods.

As for Rice, there is simply no question that the Bushites have been working on a "you don't get to criticize a black woman; Dems are racists" strategy. They used it during the Rice hearing in the Senate. Openly. Dems are racist--for attacking Rice, and also Gonzales. I could hardly believe my ears. I laughed out loud.

Cheney. I figure he's had a pre-agreed pardon, signed by Bush Jr., from the beginning, with blanks left for assorted felonies to be filled in. No skin off his nose, if he resigns or doesn't resign. He goes to Halliburton Heaven. He got them NO, didn't he? and almost got them martial law and total 'WH' control of the Katrina loot--possibly by blackmailing Jr. on Treasongate. No way Darth Vader is going to prison. He'd barricade himself behind a CACI private army--and challenge President Lieberman or President Rice to enforce the court ruling (if they were so inclined) (heh, heh), or fake his own death.

But I think he's covered, as to indictment--whether by Jr.'s pardon or some other Cartel prez (if Fitzgerald nails Jr.). My guess: Libby's taking the fall for Cheney (as to jail time)--and the "aspens" are up to no good. They want Iran and Syria. He even TELLS Miller to "come back to work--and life" to cover the Iran nuke story. All is well. The nefarious PNAC scheme is well "rooted."

I thought way back in the last century (2004) that Cheney not running would be the best Cartel strategy for re-electing Jr. But that was before I fully realized that they didn't need to operate normally in political terms. They had (have) Diebold and ES&S tabulating the votes with SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code. So we got that criminal as VP AGAIN, shoved down our throats as with everything else.

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I found it amusing (gruesomely so) in the posted story that, with the regime seemingly crumbling into dust as surely as the Twin Towers, all that Republican can think of is, "Is she pro-choice?" Boy, they need that cannon fodder badly, don't they? Got big plans, cannon fodder-wise. (--and also as to the slave work force...).

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Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW! --is all I can say. Wake up, people!

[deadparrot]

126. If it comes to that, and Condi is put in as VP,

which I consider near impossible for many reasons, I think we'll see the Republican party as we know it fall apart. A black, unmarried, pro-choice, pro-affirmative action female? I can almost see the fundie heads exploding.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

129. Cheney would never stand for that humiliation without a fight...

and neither would her husband!

Seriously, Dick and Lynn are not the kind of people to be cornered without a bloodletting. He will not resign. If the shit hits the fan for him, he will take down rove who he doesn't get along with and probably figures is the one who sold him down the river.

And then it will get fun.

[olddad56]

130. What is the difference. He is just a liaison for Halliburton anyway.

[Lowell]

141. If he can have his drinking buddy, Meirs,

appointed to the Supreme Court the why can't he have his fluffer, Condi, for VP.

[droidamus]

145. Interesting scenario

GOP makes Cheney resign and the chimp puts up Rice who is rubberstamped by the Senate. Rice runs and is nominated by the GOP the Dems nominate Hillary. What would the neo-cons and religio-cons do with that choice vote for a black, pro-choice woman or a liberal woman. Their heads would probably explode :-)

[rainman99]

151. Why in the BLANK is Halliburton still raking in billions???

[WinkyDink]

152. Southern white male the next VP?

Which of Poppy's sons:
Jebbie?

Or Bill C?! HAHA!!

[Burried News]

158. Maybe they'll go the route of a DLC Republican? Lieberman or

Vilsack? That would make life innerestin. :hide:

[leesa]

159. Unbelievable...they are thinking por-choice politics when their hero is

going down for treason. If Condi was on AF1 that day, she belongs in jail...and not only for her war crimes.

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

163. So so Black Queen is moving on the Chessboard

Bush**, Condi... The new american royal couple.

possible next steps:

Bush** in decline and can't get the homepopulace revolt.

Cheney resigns.

Rice as VP.

(optional)
Bush resigns.
Rice as P
(/optional)

XX--End of Rochade--XX

At a time of increased ecologic disasters, diseases, increased hostile politics. Repubs, Racists, Freeps will take no shit from a black woman and maybe incite the revolt the dems won't do when she screws up(intentionally?), dems might consider joining them in the revolt.

Unrest, insurrection, revolt

Martial Law

XX--Check--XX

Depending on the level of resistance something between civil war and Fourth Reich Mk II

End of burial of the last vestiges of american democracy.

XX--Checkmate?--XX

All hail Emperor George I and/or Empress Condoleeza Rice of the Lords Holy States of America

(aka Dumbfuckingstan, Watchedanddonenothingstan, Resistbybumperstickerstan, Republic of Gilead, jesusland, Breed&Fight Ltd., Pray'n Pry Congregation, whatever...)

hmm interesting thought...

[godai]

170. and rising to her level of incompetence

Although I don't think this will happen, the more I think of it, the more logical it seems. Condisleeza is to VP as Miers is to Supreme Court.

[yasmina27]

166. Misinformation?

I have postulated all along that Dicky would resign prior to the midterms (albeit for health reasons - I like this better - far more damaging to the *admin.). Shrub would appoint Ricky Sanctimonium as VP and heir apparent in '08. Ricky is going down big time here in PA - losing ground daily in the polls. ALTHOUGH, he has been stepping in the poo alot lately, so maybe they've been having second thoughts and are looking at Condi.

[nguoihue]

167. Dick head going down?

I'm going out to look for a nice pair of dancing shoes. Get ready Main Street.

[Podface]

169. I'm digging a hole and hiding in it

BAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

Condi may as well not have any future aspirations if she were to step into #2.

Let's face it, without rove or cheney keeping him somewhat in check, bush will drive this world into total chaos.

We better all hope that it's bush that takes a major fall. I would much rather have a greedy ceo running the country (which he is now) for the next 3 years, than an unchecked fucking lunatic who believes god is telling him to restructure the world.

God..... we are so fucked.