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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:59 AM
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Sources Say Transit Strike Is On; Annoucement Expected Shortly (New York)
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 02:09 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
http://www.ny1.com/ny1/NY1ToGo/Story/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=55700

Sources tell NY1 News that the Transit Workers Union has voted to approve a public transit strike effective immediately, following a breakdown in negotiations with the MTA.

An official announcement from the TWU at its Upper West Side headquarters is expected at any time.

The executive board of the Transport Workers Union is wrapping up a meeting at this hour, after which it is expected they will announce plans for a transit strike that could debilitate the city on the cusp of the holidays.

After five days of contract talks between the MTA and the TWU, MTA spokesman Tom Kelly announced at 10:58 p.m. that TWU negotiators had rejected the MTA's final offer and had departed for the union's headquarters to vote on a work stoppage that would strand many of the city's seven million commuters come Tuesday morning.

The negotiations broke down after continuing for nearly two hours past the 9 p.m. deadline that the TWU had set for the MTA to present its final offer. Earlier in the evening, TWU officials asked the MTA to present its best offer at 9 p.m. so the TWU executive board could vote on it before midnight.

TWU officials said earlier that if the board is unable to approve a contract, its 34,000 members will begin walking off the job.
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GatoLover Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:40 AM
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(NYC) Transit Union Calls for Strike in Divided Vote (2:31am EST)
http://www.nytimes.com

Transit Union Calls for Strike in Divided Vote

By STEVEN GREENHOUSE and SEWELL CHAN

Leaders of the transit workers' union rejected the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's latest contract offer last night, and voted to call a strike shortly after 1 a.m., according to two members of the union's executive board. But the vote to call a strike was not unanimous, and so for at least a half an hour after the formal vote, union leaders remained divided on whether to actually proceed with the walkout.

Adding to the confusion, the president of the Transport Workers Union of America, the parent union for the city's transit workers, told the local executive board he could not support a strike, the two members said. They said that the president, Michael T. O'Brien, said he believed that the transportation authority might change its offer, and he urged the union to re-enter the talks.

A transit strike, the city's first in a quarter century, would prevent people from going to work, cause hundreds of millions of dollars in economic damage and upend the life of the city in the week before Christmas.

The vote by the union board came after a 12-hour round of intense negotiations between the two pivotal figures in the talks - Peter S. Kalikow, the transportation authority's chairman, and Roger Toussaint, president of Local 100 of the Transport Workers Union - who bargained face-to-face yesterday for the first time since Friday.

But with just an hour to go before the deadline, Tom Kelly, an authority spokesman, said that efforts to settle the dispute had faltered after the union turned down what he called "a fair offer."

"Unfortunately, that offer has been rejected by the Transport Workers Union, and they have advised us that they were going - that they are going - to leave the building, and going to the union hall," Mr. Kelly said. "The M.T.A. remains ready to continue negotiations." Union officials would not discuss the developments as they headed into their private strategy session.

The developments capped a day in which the transit union stepped up the pressure by beginning a strike yesterday morning against two Queens bus lines, stranding about 57,000 passengers in what the union portrayed as a prelude to a strike that would shut down the nation's largest transit system.

The union first threatened to shut down the whole system on Friday, but pushed back the deadline to today, seemingly to increase its leverage by warning of a walkout the week before Christmas, one of the busiest weeks for retailers. The state's Taylor Law prohibits strikes by public employees and carries penalties of two days' pay for each day on strike.

As a result of all the threats and deadlines, many New Yorkers for the second straight week felt wildly off balance, straining to figure out how their children would get to school and how they would get to work or to doctors' appointments.

Some New Yorkers backed the transit workers, some saw them as greedy lawbreakers, and some said that both sides in the negotiations deserved the public's disdain.

Warning that a strike would be illegal, Gov. George E. Pataki and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg stepped up their campaign to pressure the union, with the mayor saying that a strike would be "reprehensible."

"The city and state and courts - everybody is going to enforce the law, and anybody that thinks that they can just go break the law is sadly mistaken," Mr. Bloomberg said. "There can be no winners in a strike - it's not going to force the M.T.A. to make a settlement. If anything, it's going to probably dig them in."

At rallies outside the governor's office and in Queens alongside the striking bus workers, Mr. Toussaint and many union members trumpeted their defiance, insisting that it was more important to obtain what they viewed as a just contract than to obey the law barring strikes.

"Unless there is substantial movement by the authority, trains and buses will come to a halt as of midnight tonight," he said at a rally for the bus workers in East Elmhurst, Queens.

With anger in his voice, he added, "We maintain, as we have in the past week, that threats are not going to produce a contract and are not going to work against us." Later, at a rally outside the governor's office in Manhattan, he sought to justify a walkout by saying, "There's a calling that is higher than the law, and that's the calling of justice."

City officials have prepared an emergency plan that would increase ferry service, allow taxis to pick up multiple fares, close several streets to traffic except for buses and emergency vehicles, and prohibit cars with fewer than four passengers from entering Manhattan below 96th Street during the morning rush. The city is also deploying hundreds of police officers to secure subway entrances in the event of a walkout.

The transportation authority's 11th-hour offer included a 3 percent raise in the first year, 4 percent in the second year and 3.5 percent in the third year of a new contract, representatives on both sides said. Before yesterday, it was offering 3 percent a year for three straight years.

The authority dropped its demand to raise the retirement age for a full pension to 62 for new employees, up from 55 for current employees. But the authority proposed that all future transit workers pay 6 percent of their wages toward their pensions, up from the 2 percent that current workers pay.

The transportation authority asserts that it needs to bring its soaring pension costs under control to stave off future deficits. But union leaders vow that they will not sell out future transit workers by saddling them with lesser benefits.

Earlier yesterday, Mr. Toussaint hinted at some movement in the talks at the Grand Hyatt hotel, saying that the union would reduce its wage demands to 6 percent a year, from 8 percent a year, if the authority promised to reduce the number of disciplinary actions brought against transit workers. The authority has offered raises of 3 percent a year for three years.

The union began its strike against two Queens bus lines, Jamaica Buses Inc. and Triboro Coach Corporation, in the hope of pressuring the authority to reach an overall settlement. The walkout angered many Queens commuters and caused many to squeeze into vans and taxis.

The 707 workers at the two bus companies have been without a contract for 33 months. The authority is taking control of those two companies and five others, and union officials assert that the strike against the companies is not prohibited because the authority has not taken full control of them.

The Public Employment Relations Board, a state body that oversees labor relations for government employees, did not issue a decision yesterday in response to a complaint that the union filed on Sunday, asserting that the authority had violated state law by including its pension demands as part of what it said was its final offer. The union has asked the labor board to seek an injunction ordering the authority to drop its pension demand.

At 9:15 p.m. yesterday, the board's executive director, James R. Edgar, said the board had not yet received the authority's legal papers replying to the union.

Many New Yorkers said a strike would disrupt their lives. Doreen Simon, 55, who lives in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, and works as a housekeeper in Riverdale, the Bronx, said, "I'm going to stay home. What can I do? I can't take a cab to the Bronx. It's going to hurt."

The union has repeatedly urged Mr. Pataki to join the talks, trying to put the onus on him if there is a walkout. But the governor, like the mayor, says that the professionals at the authority should handle the talks.

Workers at the Metro-North Railroad and Long Island Rail Road are not expected to strike in support of transit workers. Anthony J. Bottalico, the chairman of the union that represents Metro-North engineers, conductors and rail-traffic controllers, said none of his members planned to strike.

However, two other unions, which represent Metro-North ticket collectors and track workers, have vowed to show solidarity with Local 100 by refusing to cross picket lines, and they could conceivably delay, though not disrupt, regular train service.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:40 AM
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1. GatoLover
Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs.
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GatoLover Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:43 AM
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2. Thanks, I was bad on the edit
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:00 AM
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3. Faux has news conference on now 12.00AM CT
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:04 AM
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4. NYC Transit Workers Announce Strike
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 03:08 AM by maddezmom
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:04 AM
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5. Well I'm staying home then
Screw that.

I don't blame the union though, the MTA are a bunch of lying, crooked bastards.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:38 AM
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7. Staying home? I may be stuck home.
According to that NY1 article, the livery drivers may largely refuse to go along with the whole "4 passenger" rule citing that the city is expecting them to act as scab labor. If the cab drivers stand in solidarity with the TWU, we ain't goin' nowhere.

I'm on strike myself at NYU so I understand the difficulty of their decision to go on strike. That's why I believe that they have real fears and issues attached to this strike. It can't just be 'greed'. They're all going to be fined daily. They live in NYC, they're going to be just as inconvenienced as the rest of us.

With the nation the way it is, we need to support labor. If I'm trapped in the city and I can't make it to my family's on Xmas (I'm supposed to leave tomorrow) then-- oh well. This country's falling apart. A ruined holiday is the least of my worries.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:59 AM
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10. We really do need to support labor
I'm a temp and I'm still living at home with my mom, largely because I simply can't afford to live on my own with what I make. I can only imagine what it's like for some of these transit workers, who have children and families to support. It's getting to the point where only millionaires are going to be able to afford to live here.

I don't drive, so the bus/subway is my lifeline--I can't afford cabs even if they do operate. But as bad as it's going to be (I can't afford to stay home either), I'm with the union 100%. Working people get screwed in this town, and it's only getting worse.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:13 AM
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11. It really is bad.
I work at NYU as an English Comp instructor , but my 'job category' is graduate assistant because I take courses in an MFA program. I don't assist anyone: I make syllabi, teach classes, and grade 60 papers a week. Before we had a union we made $10,000 a year, no benefits. Now that we have a union we make $19K. Can you imagine living on $10K in NYC? My rent is $1400 a month for 250 sq. feet and I pay that with my $19K. Now, George Bush's labor board told NYU that they don't have to consider us workers anymore and NYU doesn't legally have to recognize our right to unionize. So we have to take it 'on their word' that they won't take away our health care (they already raised copays and cut benefits without our knowledge) or reduce our salary.

What do we get for striking? Fired and blacklisted.

Corporate logic is making this city unbearable and we need to stick together.
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Kade Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:25 AM
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23. Solidarity is the key!
I'm totally pro-union (even if it means me walking in the cold). My roommate goes to NYU and told me the Grad. students were striking. How is that going? Any compromises from Administration yet?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:45 AM
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21. Exactly -- Solidarity!
It's what once gave workers a decent living and rights. And, hopefully, it will once again return the same to us.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:08 AM
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6. CNN NYC Transit workers on strike. nt.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:40 AM
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8. link
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:58 AM
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9. anyone interested in hearing the workers' POV on this one, here's a link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/375722p-319283c.html

So much of labor relations is based on treating your employees with respect.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:21 AM
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12. Is this a joke?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051220/ap_on_re_us/nyc_transit_talks

Jose Padilla, 34, said he and fellow Coca-Cola employees are meeting at 4 a.m. to come up with a plan to put more workers in trucks to ensure their product gets delivered in the case of a strike.

"We have to get the Coke to the people," Padilla said. "Just because there is a strike, people don't stop drinking coke."

A citywide bus and subway strike would be New York's first since an 11-day walkout in 1980.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:09 AM
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17. Oh my god it is a joke, there're just making shit up.
Commuter frustration was evident both before the strike and after it was called.

Darryl Padilla, a 20-year-old club promoter, was trying to get on the train at Penn Station when he found out that the strike had begun. He didn't have enough cash to take a cab to his home on the northern tip of Manhattan.

"I didn't think they were going to shut down. I can't take a cab," he said.

(3 hours after the Jose Padilla article)

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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:07 AM
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13. NYC Transit System Shuts Down After Talks Break Off
Dec. 20 (Bloomberg) -- New York City's transit system shut down today for the first time in 25 years as the Metropolitan Transportation Authority failed to reach a new contract with 32,000 bus and subway workers.

The move, echoing a 1980 strike that halted the U.S.'s largest transit system for 11 days, triggered Mayor Michael Bloomberg's emergency plans to keep the city moving. Vehicles entering the busiest part of Manhattan this morning are required to carry at least four people, and taxi drivers are allowed to fill their cabs with passengers going to different destinations.

Members of Transport Workers Union Local 100, who stranded about 50,000 riders in a walkout at two bus lines serving Queens yesterday, struck the rest of the city's bus and subway system, which carries 7 million riders a day. The strike came four days after the union's contract expired Dec. 16.

``We did not want a strike, but apparently the MTA, the governor and mayor did,'' Roger Toussaint, Local 100's president, said in calling the strike about 3 a.m. local time. No date was set for a resumption of talks.

more

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aX1TazGyXxP4&refer=home
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greenpagan Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:07 AM
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14. STRIKE ON -- FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE !
RECALL MICHAEL “BAD FAITH” BLOOMBERG--A TRAITOR TO HIS OWN FAMILY’S WORKING-CLASS ROOTS !

Let this be the beginning of a National General Strike!

More than 30,000 New York City transit workers went on strike early Tuesday, shutting down the nation's largest public transit system.

All commuters should stay home in solidarity with the transit workers!

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/nyregion/nyregionspecial3/20strike.html?ei=5094&en=59c0d10be02a35f3&hp=&ex=1135141200&partner=AOL&pagewanted=print

ALL AMERICAN LABOR MUST STAND FAST IN SUPPORT OF THE NYC TRANSIT WORKERS! THEY ARE THE FRONTLINE TROOPS IN THE CLASS WAR AGAINST THE CORRUPT CORPORATE CRAPITALIST SWINEERY!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:07 AM
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15. Interesting that the local law would require vehicles to max out in
in passengers. Aren't most of those vehicles "private property"?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:10 AM
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16. many of them won't do it.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:16 AM
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18. NY Transit Workers in DC on 09/24/05


I hope they can come to a settlement that is fair for everyone.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:55 AM
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19. Do the math
There are 34,000 transit workers.
Average salary is $50,000.
MTA offers 3% raises.
Union currently asks for 6%.
Cost to city daily is supposedly $400 million.

3% would cost 50 million a year.
6% would cost 100 million a year.

Bloomberg spent $70 million to get reelected when he was ahead by 20% the entire campaign.
If he was that worried about the city ...
Kind of shows where the priorities should be if you ask me and where they are.
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cablemodem77 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:59 AM
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20. Bloomberg is so pro-business it aint even funny
He beat Ferrer because he's rich.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:20 PM
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27. So one day of benefits to the city
would fund 4 years of the requested raise to the entire workforce.

Or two hours of the profits/benefits that the workers provide with this service would fund the raise for a year.
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Kade Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:21 AM
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22. Oh man is it a heck of a day to be walking.....
I spent the night last night up at Columbia Univ. (w. 116th). Woke up this morning and realized I had to walk home to w. 3rd.

I started out around 8:30 and just got back to my place, so pretty good time for a 6 mile stroll through Manhattan (had to stop for coffee of course). Weather.com is saying it is 27 degrees outside with a windchill of 18. Felt even colder when I started two hours ago. The 96th st. blockade is just that, Police are checking every car to make sure it has 4 more people in side meaning that the blocks north of 96 st. are bumper to bumper, while everything south of 96th is almost deserted. Walking through time square made me laugh since the hot dog and pretzel vendors pretty much are running the place.

Only problem I see is that it takes the Cabbies like 2 hours to wait in the traffic north of 96th st. (as well as finding 3 fares). So once they are south of 96th street, there is no way they are going to leave. Plus, they get to charge $7.50 a "zone." I'm not sure what the zones are exactly except to say that coming from 96th to W. 3rd would have cost me something like $40. Thats a waaaay too much on my AmeriCorps stipend, so I just hoofed it home.

I'm wondering what the situation is going to be for delivery trucks, etc. If Grocery stores start to run low on food...this could get crazy.

I'm off to go drink hot chocolate.

CHEERS!
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:28 AM
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24. The strike is illegal. Throw the bums in jail and fine them to the max
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Kade Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:37 AM
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25. Are you trying to get flamed??? eom
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:05 PM
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26. nope, just ignored
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:21 PM
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28. LOL really
I think someone got lost. :crazy:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:16 PM
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29. When sodomy was illegal in Texas, I still fucked my girlfriend...
If MTA workers are forced into a weak bargaining position in one of the most pro-union cities in America, then there's a ripple effect to other workers in NYC, and so on.

Yeah, throw 33,000 people in jail and fine them. You're a fucking genius. Get over yourself.
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NFL80 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:18 PM
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30. You got your wish
WCBS reports a judge has fined TWU $1,000,000 per day starting today.
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Kade Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:27 PM
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31. Those fines are scare tactics....
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 04:28 PM by Kade
....and little else. Do you really think that all 33,000 employees are going to pony up $25 K? Talk about indebting an entire organization. I'll bet 10 to 1 that the fines go out the window as part of the new contract agreement.

-Kade
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:43 PM
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32. Does the law matter at all?
In all seriousness, there is a law against striking in this instance and I don't see any comment by the union in regards to this issue. What's going on there?

In San Francisco, certain public employees are not legally allowed to strike, like MUNI (bus, streetcar, subway), police, fire, etc. In the Federal Government, employees cannot strike. In these instances, whether it seems fair or not, we live with these restrictions.

If the strike is willful civil disobediance, the appropriate thing is to take the punishment (the fines, consequences, etc.), but there is no talk of civil disobediance here.

Also, as a public worker myself, I think public employee unions sometimes need to tread a little more carefully since our salaries are increasingly paid by folks who are underpaid, without benefits and often living in poverty, while our government jobs, though not always lucrative, often are much more secure, benefitted and feature better workplaces than the folks that pay our salaries. I think transit workers need to keep this in mind especially, although that form of government work is the most thankless, still, this kind of strike just doesn't look good without building a good case and getting the public on your side.

I think TWU is going to have a problem if I'm not sure why I would support them striking at this moment.
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