11 U.S. troops killed in one day in Iraq

[sabra]

http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/international-28/1136550558103930.xml&storylist=

11 U.S. troops killed in one day in Iraq


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — The U.S. military on Friday announced the deaths of six more American troops killed in the recent barrage of violence that has swept Iraq, bringing to 11 the number of troops killed on the same day.

A U.S. Marine and soldier died in the attack by a suicide bomber who infiltrated a line of police recruits in Ramadi on Thursday, killing at least 58 and wounding dozens. Two soldiers were also killed in the Baghdad area when their vehicle hit a roadside bomb, the military said Friday.

In addition, two U.S. Marines were killed by separate small arms attacks while conducting combat operations in Fallujah, the military said.

The military had previously announced the deaths of five soldiers hit by a roadside bomb south of Karbala. The attack came minutes before a second suicide bomber struck Shiite pilgrims in that city, killing 63.

[wakeme2008]

1. Bush tell me again how nice it is in Iraq

:cry:

[rodeodance]

61. cable news ignored this headline!!!!

[Botany]

2. Blessings and Prayers for their Families, Friends, and Spirits

11 U.S. Troops :patriot:

When does this all stop George, when?

:cry:

[rodeodance]

10. yes, may their families find peace.

[0007]

49. Pile em high and then higher

Grass Bush

Pile the bodies high in Austerlitz and Waterloo Iraq
Shovel them under and let me work--
I am the grass; bush; I cover all.

And pile them high in Gettyburg Baghdad
And pile them high in Ypres and Vedum Mossoul and Al Fallaujah

Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor:
What place is this?

I am the grass bush.
Let me work.

Carl Sandburg


Support the war and donate a son or daughter
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[leftchick]

3. they knew all of this yesterday yet

the US Military reported it as 5 dead, 2 dead, 2 dead, 2 dead until finally someone today noticed, HEy! There were ELEVEN soldiers killed in ONE day! :banghead:

[Straight Shooter]

32. It isn't as many when you parse it out as 5, 2, 2, and 2.

That way it confuses people. They hear "2 dead" and think to themselves, "Oh, I read about that earlier." The details of the where and how of the attacks escape them, they only notice the numbers and so people think it's the same attack.

This is damage control by the U.S. military, so as not to discourage potential new recruits and to prop up the bush administration. Truly disgusting.

[Trevelyan]

33. Please help stop the bush regime madness by signing Rep. Conyers'

letter supporting his bill to begin the IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY NOW!!!

http://www.johnconyers.com Conyer's Action Items

http://www.conyersblog.us/

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[MrPrax]

39. Bingo!

Glad to see someone else noticed this--

I am sure you've done the same thing...opened tabs with all the stories you can find (al-jiz,cnn,reuters,bbc,etc etc) and you still can't figure out if this is 3 NEW ones or whether the report eariler that said '2 killed' simply added another casuality...

Using the town as a ref. point is good, but in some accounts those details are obscured, purposely I think...like one will mention 'Tikrit' and another will mention 'in the Sunni Triangle, 130 km north of Baghdad' with no mention that it's 'Tikrit'.

Of course it done on purpose by MIL...

Usually 24 hours after a noteable incident, you can find detail put together in news stories that contain eyewitness accounts...and LIKE eariler this week where the US bombed a families house...all the initial details turned out to be wrong.

And YES, some eyewitness accounts and field stories can be suspect because of the US (and others) to pay 'reporters/english writers' in Iraq to paint the Coalition in the best possible light--esp after they wipe out a whole family with a particularly bad bombing...

(Psst...you know, the bombing yesterday MIGHT not be Zawari at all :eyes:, but retialation for this bombing by the US)

[cliss]

40. The government knows......

Americans' tolerance for war is directly related to the number of deaths. In VietNam, the number started to spiral upward. The protests started. The numbers increased. The protests got out of hand.

They realized that the public has a certain tolerance for deaths, and that's why they always try to keep it hidden. They're "buying time" so to speak, by hiding the truth.

In VietNam, we finally reached 58,000 deaths before we packed up and went home. We were there for 10 years. Maybe these are the "limits to tolerance" for Americans. So they know they've got some time left.

[leftchick]

46. I read 5 in Baghdad, 2 in Najaf that seem to have disappeared

2 in Fallujah, 2 in Ramadi then 2 in Baghdad. The 2 in Najaf may reappear again tomorrow for a weekend news dump. God I hate these people. :(

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. Welcome to the Desert of the Real

....

[Barrett808]

42. That scene always gives me chills. n/t

[rodeodance]

5. my god--I listened to the news this morning and heard NOTHING of this.

[rodeodance]

52. Kick-for the troops

[rodeodance]

6. nominate for the troops.

[rodeodance]

7. Average (410 votes) 4.2 stars

on Yahoo

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8. kick

[rodeodance]

9. at least it is an AP story--shoud get wide coverage one would think.

[rodeodance]

11. "At least 2,194 members of the U.S. military have died since the war began

......The 11 U.S. deaths were the most in a single day since 11 Americans were killed on Dec. 1. On that day, 10 Marines were killed by buried bombs as they gathered for a promotion ceremony in an abandoned flour mill in Fallujah, and one soldier was killed in Ramadi.

At least 2,194 members of the U.S. military have died since the war began, according to an Associated Press count.

[rodeodance]

12. there is a civil war in Iraqi--both with words and bombs being used.

.....In Ramadi, a Sunni insurgent stronghold 70 miles west of the capital, Marine Capt. Jeffrey S. Pool said police recruits got back in line to continue the screening process after a suicide bomber attacked. They were apparently desperate for a relatively well-paying job in the impoverished area.

Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, a Shiite, denounced the violence as an attempt to derail the political process at a time when progress was being made toward a broad-based government that would include the Sunni Arabs and thus possibly weaken the insurgency.

Iraq's main Shiite religious party, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution, issued a veiled threat to Sunnis supporting the insurgency that its patience was wearing thin.

But in a chord struck by several politicians, the party also condemned policies it said were imposed by the U.S.-led coalition that were hampering Iraqi security forces' counterterrorism work. The Americans have increased their oversight of Shiite-dominated security forces following widespread charges of abuse, especially of Sunni Arab detainees.......

[Tin Man]

18. No surprise here - elections alone won't end a civil war

None of this should come as a surprise to anyone... including the Neocon Cabal. The fact that the Sunnis participated in the recent elections never indicated a willingness to stop the war - rather, the leaders of the Sunni insurgency viewed voting as a "no cost" political tactic to augment the war.

The Sunni strategy is really quite simple: allow the elections to proceed, vote as many sunni candidates as possible into office, and afterwards - resume the war. Now the Sunni's have a political component as well as military component, both pursuing the Sunni vision of a post-Saddam Iraq.

[hadrons]

26. IRA did the same thing .....

they pursured both political office and armed resistence as the Sunnis are doing, why wouldn't anyone think otherwise???

oh yes, we're talking about Bush-bots here

[rodeodance]

13. Gen Vines warms of Iraqi forces being hired as "militias or armed gangs."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/06/international/middleeast/06military.html?th=&emc=th&pagewanted=print

January 6, 2006
Iraq Facing Hurdles, U.S. General Warns
By ERIC SCHMITT

CAMP VICTORY, Iraq, Jan. 4 - The top American operational commander in Iraq has offered a sober assessment of the hurdles facing a new Iraqi government, voicing concerns that sectarian rivalries and incompetence could cripple major ministries and turn newly American-trained Iraqi security forces into militias for hire.......



"The ability of the ministries to support them, to pay them, to resupply them, provide them with water, ammunition, spare parts and weapons is not as advanced as the competence of the forces in the field," General Vines said at his headquarters here outside of Baghdad, as a new wave of violence gripped Iraq this week. "We must make significant progress in that area before they can conduct independent operations."

General Vines cautioned that other important ministries, like oil and electricity, must also strengthen their operations for the security forces to succeed - and for Iraq to prosper politically and economically.

"The reason it's important to look at areas like governance and infrastructure is because oil is the lifeblood of Iraq," said General Vines, who commands the XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, N.C. "If they don't produce enough income to support their security forces, members of those forces could turn to ulterior purposes and could become militias or armed gangs.".........

[rodeodance]

14. just listened to CNN again (news) and they did not mention this!

[rodeodance]

15. Salon is carrying this AP also.

http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8EV672O0.html

[rodeodance]

16. abc, Guardian, The Conservative voice, cbs, ME online, webs have

this story.
At least it on the web sites.

11 US Troops Killed in One Day in Iraq
ABC News - 47 minutes ago
... BAGHDAD, Iraq Jan 6, 2006 — The US military on Friday announced the ... of violence that has swept Iraq, bringing to 11 the number of troops killed on the ...

Update 23: 11 US Troops Killed in One Day in Iraq Forbes
11 US Troops Killed in One Day in Iraq Guardian Unlimited
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11 US troops killed in one day in Iraq
The Conservative Voice, NC - 5 minutes ago
... of Saddam Hussein in 2003, with at least 136 total deaths, including the US troops. The 11 US deaths were the most in a single day since 11 Americans were ...

......Salon--has the AP story also here).....

11 US Troops Killed in One Day in Iraq
CBS News - 25 minutes ago
(AP) The US military on ... American troops killed in the recent barrage of violence that has swept Iraq, bringing to 11 the number of troops killed on the ...

Eleven US soldiers killed in Iraq Thursday
Middle East Online, UK - 31 minutes ago
BAGHDAD - A total of 11 US servicemen were killed in Iraq ... Five US troops died when a roadside bomb struck their patrol near the holy Shiite city of ...

[rodeodance]

17. Kick.

[rodeodance]

19. Imus (msnbc) just announced that 9 US soldiers died in the violence

[rodeodance]

20. Reporter on Imus saying if winning Bush does not need to make speech

with the cameras each day.

He is right ON! (this on Imus just now).

[rodeodance]

21. please nominate---we need to see this and pass it along to all.

[rodeodance]

29. i still have not heard this on cable news today!

[Trevelyan]

34. Nominate. nt

[Cults4Bush]

22. Heres the equation occupation=s more death and less ability to disengage.

People that think we can do anything but bring more death and tourture and rape to Iraq or mistaken. You get beheaded for just being friendly to our troops. Heres an idea, instead of trying to save face, why not try and save some live sand get the fuck out of there? Iraqis get slaughtered just for chatting with us, how on earth does anyone think we can do anything but even when we are trying to help?

[Mark E. Smith]

23. Shouldn't we expect a #3 Al Qaeda capture today?

It is unlike the Bush thugs to leave a story like this unimpeded for long.

[rodeodance]

53. Bush and his buddies were too busy talking up the economy to worry

about dead troops today.

[Massachusetts]

24. Bu$hco=TREASON

When will Americans act?!

[cal04]

25. Up to 130 Killed in Iraq, Drawing a Shiite Warning

We need to get OUT!

Attacks by suicide bombers killed as many as 130 people in Karbala and Ramadi on Thursday, rekindling fears of a return to mass sectarian killings after a relative lull and prompting Iraq's most powerful Shiite political faction to warn of retribution and indirectly blame the United States for the bloodshed.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/06/international/middleeast/06iraq.html

[il_lilac]

27. do you have a yahoo link?

tried to find it to rate it up, but I guess it's not the news the sheeple want.

[il_lilac]

28. found it

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060106/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=Atf35rHIYlUmfwYwfmPwqbln.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-

[rodeodance]

30. Shites ralled against America at the same time.

.....Thousands of Shiites, meanwhile, rallied in Baghdad to protest the bloodshed and denounce what they said was American coddling of some Sunnis who support the insurgency in order to mollify them and bring them into a broad-based government.

[rodeodance]

31. Sharon all over the news and the mine tradedy--lets media blast this!

[rodeodance]

55. "Iraq violence may provoke Shiite backlash"

Iraq violence may provoke Shiite backlash
1/6/2006, 6:22 p.m. ET
By PATRICK QUINN
The Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — A spree of bloodshed that killed nearly 200 people in two days, including 11 U.S. troops, threatened to provoke a backlash from Shiite militias. Iraq's largest religious group rallied thousands Friday against what it claimed was American backing for some Sunni Arab politicians they say have supported insurgents.

Military officials announced the deaths of six more U.S. troops in the recent violence that has swept Iraq, bringing to 11 the number of Americans killed on the same day.

In Baghdad's Sadr City slum and in its northern Kazimiyah suburb, thousands of angry Shiites rallied to condemn twin suicide attacks Thursday that killed at least 136 people, including the U.S. troops.

The protesters also denounced what they claimed was American backing for Sunni Arabs politicians who have supported insurgent groups and are now protesting that last month's elections were tainted by fraud..........

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[hadrons]

36. so troops96, planning on enlisting to join the fight???

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[hadrons]

41. what did this fool reply before being tombstoned?

[salin]

38. that is known as the "fly paper" talking point

a strawman, no doubt, but Dick Cheney would be happy to see it is still in circulation.

[donkeyotay]

45. A old TP, one with lots of nasty dead flies stuck to it

What a noble concept: Let's invade a sovereign nation, create a civil war and kill as many of the "wrong" side as we can to keep us safer here at home. Illegal, immoral and stupid, must be a Trifecta.

We are not safer. Our army is in tatters, our debts are mounting, our credibility gone, our standing with other nations eroded, and our nation's well-being being sacrificed to corruption and cronyism. America is vulnerable in a way that we were not on Sept. 12, 2001.

[Tin Man]

47. well said, donkeyotay

Invading Iraq has made the US less safe - we've created the world's best urban terrorist training ground, smack-dab in the geographic heart of Radical Islam.

And ain't it odd that we keep killing the "terr-ists" in Iraq with our "flypaper" approach, yet we never seem to get ahead of the curve? It's because we're manufacturing terr-ists faster than we can kill 'em. What'll we do when we've got more flies buzzing around than fly paper to accomodate them?

[saigon68]

48. Adios

Vaya Con Dios

[llmart]

43. IMPEACH THE BASTARDS NOW!!!

I have nothing left to say. I've said it all a hundred times before. I'm sick of the public not getting on board and calling for these bastards removal from office. They are incompetent and use our military and soldiers for their own gain.

[Generator]

44. Yeah and let's give endless coverage instead

to the miners. I'm sorry but the priorities of this country's media STINK to propagandaville.

[rodeodance]

54. i think all the mine coverage is intruding on the privacy of families

grieving.

[ddeclue]

50. This is media manipulation by the Administration!

They KNEW about these deaths yesterday and chose to minimize it by only announcing 5 yesterday and then the other 6 today because they know that nobody pays attention to the news between Friday and Monday morning.

Doug D.

[deadparrot]

51. RIP.

...

[Barkley]

56. Major combat operations ended in May 2003 -nt

[democrank]

57. Did we win yet?

Did we?

[RevolutionStartsNow]

58. My husband was talking to a Vietnam vet today, a Republican...

who supported this war, for all the usual reasons. They were talking about how many soldiers had been killed recently in Iraq, and he was saying that he is "starting to agree with Jack Murtha." Get out now.

[opihimoimoi]

60. "Starting to....." ??? Too freaking late for 2000 + families

[RevolutionStartsNow]

67. I agree, most of these people just now coming around...

have the blood on their hands, too. How come so many of us were smart enough to see that this war was not just a mistake, but criminal?

[opihimoimoi]

68. How come.....? Because we happen to work at thinking.... but not enough

of us apparently...

[doc03]

59. Soon Bush will have killed more Americans in his war on

"terra" than Bin Laden.

[go west young man]

62. Must be one of those "Last Throe Days."

[Imagevision]

63. How many would have survived if they had proper armor??!!

[rodeodance]

64. and one dead today (Sat).

[saigon68]

65. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

He likes other people to do his KILLING for him

He is a Sadistic War Criminal.

[ismnotwasm]

66. God I'm sick.

So my daughter will be out of the army in about 2 weeks. I tell this story a lot around here, or at least as much as I tell anything. But she had rel enlisted after her deployment and her "year in purgatory" as she puts it, in Afghanistan. This young woman felt that we made a positive difference in Afghanistan, because she saw the horrors the Taliban left. She herself, strong and capable, felt she made a positive impression on the troop, "her guys" as she referred to them. Yet, she was no unrealistic idealist. She is the one who told me, (although I already knew) that the Iraq was was doomed for disaster. Home on leave one time, she told me "Mama, those boys in Iraq just need to come home" I can't describe her voice, the sadness and resignation, but it shook me to my core. This was over well over a year ago.

Her reenlistment contract was a bunch of shit, of course, she lost faith in her commanders, not a high ranking soldier, as a NCO she has seen the devastation politics plays on our troops. Her unit, a year after returning from Afghanistan, will be deployed to Iraq. And that's how it goes. She knows the injured, the disfigured, the dead. She has seen the effects of war on returning soldiers. One very close to her killed his girlfriend, the mother of his child not too long ago, in a delusional rage. A mother is dead, a father will be in prison for a long time, and a child is parentless. She, my headstrong, hardened combat veteran, was horrified, and had a more difficult time dealing with this tragedy, in a way, than the ones she saw in Afghanistan.

I try to reply to threads that tells of our military lost, I don't always make it, but I try. I know, from my daughter, and common sense, the effect these deaths have on our soldiers. They got to carry the caskets in the memorials held in Afghanistan. I wonder if it's the same in Iraq? The death toll is so much highter...

Anyway may the dead rest in peace, and may peace come very soon. To the grieving families, no matter what side of the political scale, I send my condolences. These things hit me hard. But I have a living child. I can't imagine what I would be feeling if....if I had lost her.