2 in CIA to testify Libby lied on leak

[sabra]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/420152p-354720c.html

2 in CIA to testify Libby lied on leak

WASHINGTON - Two top CIA officials will bolster prosecutors' charge that Vice President Cheney's chief aide lied to them, court papers show.

Prosecutors say disgraced Cheney chief of staff Lewis (Scooter) Libby learned CIA spy Valerie Plame's identity from, among others, agency officials who will be called to testify at his trial for perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice.

The U.S. alleges he learned about Plame from one of the CIA officials when he went after dirt on her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson. Wilson shattered a pillar of President Bush's rationale for war - that Iraq was seeking to build a nuclear weapon.

Both CIA officials - including a top architect of the 2003 Iraq invasion - discussed Plame with Libby a month before columnist Robert Novak blew her cover in July 2003, prosecutors charge.

[zann725]

1. Rules 1&2: Don't pull on Superman's cape; & DON'T anger the CIA.

This Admin's vetting of "life-long" CIA agents, and forcing "doctored" intelligence is, like the Karmic door of life, coming back to hit this Admin. in the butt.

Me thinks, this is just the beginning...

If only some 'tapes' of KKarl at his computers and phones in his 'War Room' office at WH on Election Night 2004 could be 'found'...

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

10. Karl's Election Night War Room...

... glad somebody else remembers that. I was starting to think I was the only one. NSA anybody?

[Ghost Dog]

13. Yeah. There was a great BBC photo of Rove & Co at that desk

with a row of computers... Wish I could find it again.

The article said that BushCo were panicking, but Rove said, 'don't worry, I'll fix it', or words to that effect.

That use of a White House room for partisan purposes should have been illegal, no?

[janx]

2. Wow.

Did Libby or his lawyers know that Fitz had talked to these people?

[Kagemusha]

3. If they didn't, they do now.

Discovery process.

[RufusEarl]

4. Libby will be the sacrificial lamb,

thats the way things seem to be shaping up. The CIA will get Libby, the WH will get Hayden and KKarl will walk.

I hope i'm wrong about the KKarl part, but it does appear to be coming to a close and thats how i see it.

Peace!

[rodeodance]

5. and now the agents have names"

.....Libby has said journalists told him about Plame - not Cheney or the six witnesses named so far by prosecutors.

Until recently, the CIA officials' identities were kept secret by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, who did not name them in Libby's October indictment.

But subsequent documents allege Libby asked top CIA official Robert Grenier on June 11 why the agency sent Wilson to Niger to see if Iraq tried to buy uranium. Grenier replied that Plame was an agent and "believed responsible" for arranging her husband's trip.

The other official was Craig Schmall, a CIA briefer whom Libby complained to about the Wilson trip on June 14, court files allege.

[rodeodance]

6. I imagine Grenier will be painted as a disgrunted employee:

.The source expressed surprise that Grenier would have discussed Plame with Libby.

This year, as CIA Counterterrorist Center chief, Grenier oversaw the failed missile strike aimed at Al Qaeda No. 2 Ayman Al-Zawahiri. Shortly afterward, Grenier was demoted.

But Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA counterterrorism chief, said Grenier lost his job over his "concerns about aggressive interrogations at secret sites."

[Kagemusha]

8. His characterization of Plame as being responsible for the Wilson trip

probably caused all of this in the first place. That's not being disgruntled. That's being helpful to the Cause.

At any rate, the 2nd person backing his account is the killer.

[Ghost Dog]

9. Robert Grenier, sacked head of the CIA counter-terrorism centre

Washington Post February 7, 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020700016.html
Top Counterterrorism Officer Removed Amid Turmoil at CIA
By Barton Gellman and Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, February 7, 2006; Page A06

The CIA's top counterterrorism officer was relieved of his position yesterday after months of turmoil atop the agency's clandestine service, according to three knowledgeable officials.

Robert Grenier, who spent most of his career undercover overseas, took charge of the Counterterrorism Center about a year ago after a series of senior jobs at the center of the Bush administration's national security agenda.

When al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, Grenier was station chief in Islamabad, Pakistan. Among the agency's most experienced officers in southwest Asia, Grenier helped plan the covert campaign that preceded the U.S. military ouster of al Qaeda and its Taliban allies from Afghanistan.

By the summer of 2002, with President Bush heading toward war in Iraq, then-Director of Central Intelligence George J. Tenet recalled Grenier to headquarters and promoted him to chief of a newly created Iraq Issues Group. His staff ballooned as the administration planned and launched the invasion in March 2003.

Grenier's predecessor at the Counterterrorism Center, who remains undercover, moved on to become chief of the National Clandestine Service, the successor to the CIA's directorate of operations. Sources said the two men differ sharply in style.

/more...

The (London, Murdoch) Sunday Times February 12, 2006
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2036182,00.html
CIA chief sacked for opposing torture
Sarah Baxter and Michael Smith, Washington

The CIA’s top counter-terrorism official was fired last week because he opposed detaining Al-Qaeda suspects in secret prisons abroad, sending them to other countries for interrogation and using forms of torture such as “water boarding”, intelligence sources have claimed.

Robert Grenier, head of the CIA counter-terrorism centre, was relieved of his post after a year in the job. One intelligence official said he was “not quite as aggressive as he might have been” in pursuing Al-Qaeda leaders and networks.

Vincent Cannistraro, a former head of counter-terrorism at the agency, said: “It is not that Grenier wasn’t aggressive enough, it is that he wasn’t ‘with the programme’. He expressed misgivings about the secret prisons in Europe and the rendition of terrorists.”

Grenier also opposed “excessive” interrogation, such as strapping suspects to boards and dunking them in water, according to Cannistraro.

/more...

Wikipedia entry (17:35, 23 May 2006):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Grenier

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue May-23-06 02:25 PM
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2 in CIA to testify Libby lied on leak Updated at 9:05 PM

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2 in CIA to testify Libby lied on leak

WASHINGTON - Two top CIA officials will bolster prosecutors' charge that Vice President Cheney's chief aide lied to them, court papers show.

Prosecutors say disgraced Cheney chief of staff Lewis (Scooter) Libby learned CIA spy Valerie Plame's identity from, among others, agency officials who will be called to testify at his trial for perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice.

The U.S. alleges he learned about Plame from one of the CIA officials when he went after dirt on her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson. Wilson shattered a pillar of President Bush's rationale for war - that Iraq was seeking to build a nuclear weapon.

Both CIA officials - including a top architect of the 2003 Iraq invasion - discussed Plame with Libby a month before columnist Robert Novak blew her cover in July 2003, prosecutors charge.

[sam sarrha]

7. as much as those bastards hate our freedom they value theirs above anything

else,

Libby will fink on Cheney... no doubt in my mind.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Libby's goose is cooked!

The only thing that can save his short little ass from being groped in prison is for him to turn evidence against Cheney, or a Bush pardon.

[Evil Bush]

12. Ignore this post

[lovuian]

14. Oh the CIA are going after Libby there was a WAR going on

Bush had to take out the CIA... they knew too much

[struggle4progress]

15. kick

:kick: