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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 06:28 AM
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Kidan: shooter in Boulis murder was killed three years ago
Jun 9, 2006

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- A man killed three years ago was the person who fatally shot SunCruz Casino founder Konstantinos "Gus" Boulis, a partner in the SunCruz Casinos purchase told authorities.

John Gurino, an associate of John Gotti, was the person who shot Boulis in 2001, according to Adam Kidan, who purchased SunCruz from Boulis with partner Jack Abramoff. Kidan's statement was made in a taped interview with authorities May 1, according to a report in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. It was not clear how the paper obtained the interview.

Kidan had Abramoff had both previously insisted, through their attorneys, that they knew nothing about Boulis' killing.

Kidan's statement was made as part of a detailed 2 1/2 hour interview he had with Fort Lauderdale homicide detectives and the lead prosecutor in the Boulis murder case, according to the paper.

<snip>

According to Kidan, after Moscatiello confided in him, Ferrari said, "This happened. We have no choice it happened and now you're involved in it. If it ever comes down to it, I'm going to say you paid us...Don't screw with me or I'll kill you. I'll kill you. I'll kill your family.'"

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_BOULIS_KILLING_SHOOTER_FLOL-?SITE=FLPET&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


Funny how the potential for serving time in jail helps restore people's memories.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:17 AM
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1. background: The Big Fix 2006


http://www.madcowprod.com/01032006.html

excerpt:

Writing a quarter million dollars worth of checks (for no discernible purpose) to Mafia hit men who are later charged with the murder of the check-writer’s biggest enemy in the whole damn world is just another in a long line of "freak coincidences" in South Florida, a place where things have always been a little… different.

'Big Tony' Moscatiello and two second-rate mobsters were charged with the murder of Sun Cruz Casino magnate Gus Boulis in September. It is a case in which Jack Abramoff and his henchman Adam Kidan both have massive and totally obvious criminal exposure.

<snip>

Like Iran Contra, it is too big to ever be allowed to break. It involves, as we will see, virtually the whole apparatus of America’s secret government. And it leads to places that have nothing to do with Abramoff’s “cover ” as a “College Republican leader” turned “big money lobbyist.”

Exposure would open up what Sen. Fulbright once famously called, referring to the Bay of Pigs/JFK assassination, “An endless can of worms.”

...lots more...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:49 AM
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2. Looks like Kidan just opened one of the biggest cans of worms
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 07:50 AM by DoYouEverWonder
by admitting that he lied about not knowing anything about Boulis' murder.

Now all of a sudden he knows a lot about Boulis' murder and he's singing like a canary. Oh please have mercy, they threatened to kill me. Sounds more like Kidan and Abramoff just might be conspirators to murder.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:59 AM
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3. Abramoff that close to being associated with John Gotti?
Oh, the liberal media will have a field day with this!!!













Not.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:10 AM
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6. What liberal media?
Us? Try connecting Meyer Lansky to the Dulles brothers. There's not a lot out there, and that's for a reason. Same thing with Abramoff and the Bushes.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:06 AM
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5. If Kidan gets charged with accessory to murder, Jack will be forced
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 08:07 AM by leveymg
to cooperate more fully.

Notice how little we've heard about the bigger fish in this case: Jack's role as middleman in foreign influence peddling to the GOP leadership. That's the real target of this investigation -- at least it should be -- but, there's several layers of pillows being pressed down hard over it.

The threat of a murder charge may be enough to make Jack talk about the important things. Assuming, of course, that the US Attorney isn't sitting on those pillows.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:01 AM
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4. Also funny how convenient it is to point to a dead man.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:13 AM
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7. "Big Tony", "Little Tony" and "Pudgy"??? "Scooter", "Dusty" Foggo, and
the "Duke" (Cunningham). You can't make shit like this up.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:21 AM
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9. Oh, and I forgot Brant "Nine Fingers" Bassett.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:15 AM
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8. Someone should "double-check" his lie$ (?) with the illegal N$A
tapes (if it was said on the phone...) re:"Don't screw with me or I'll kill you. I'll kill you. I'll kill your family." I'd bet a lot of $ on that tape being "nowhere to be found..."
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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:55 AM
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10. Ohio's Bob Ney closely connected to Sun Cruz also
Ney has been under investigation by federal authorities in Florida and the District for actions that helped Abramoff and two partners buy a Fort Lauderdale-based casino cruise line. The deal that Ney promoted in the Congressional Record hinged on the Abramoff group's creation of a counterfeit $23 million wire transfer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042801879_pf.html

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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:07 AM
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11. And don't forget Atta supposedly being seen on one of the Sun Cruz
Casino boats. The FBI is supposedly investigating that also. You have to wonder why it was so important to Abramoff and Kidan to buy that cruiseline!

Kidan has been a suspect for a long time ~ it sounds like he's trying to help his Mafia 'consultants'.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:26 AM
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12. These offshore gambling ships
are a great venue for moving large sums of cash.

There is virtually no government oversight of these boats.

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:32 AM
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13. I can't believe that I am the only second nomination on this
This is BIG BIG news people, Gotti and DC, Abramoff and the WH.

This thing is getting really interesting all of the sudden.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:01 PM
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14. Kick
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 12:03 PM by chill_wind
K&R
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:16 PM
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15. Everyone is too busy
being distracted by the Amazing Zarqawi.

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:26 PM
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17. No doubt
I wanted to start a No Zarq/Ann thread over in GD but you know how those threads go, so I thought better of it.

thanks for all of the work you do DYEW ;)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:20 PM
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16. Abramoff Partner May Know Who Killer Is
Abramoff Partner May Know Who Killer Is
Abramoff's Partner in Gambling-Boat Purchase Says He Knows Who Killed Company Founder

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. Jun 9, 2006 (AP)— A man who bought a gambling-boat operation with lobbyist Jack Abramoff in 2000 says he knows who gunned down the company's founder the following year, authorities said.

Adam Kidan told authorities last month that SunCruz Casinos founder Konstantinos "Gus" Boulis was killed by John Gurino, a man with mob connections who was later shot to death by a business partner, said Art Carbo, an investigator with the Broward County State Attorney's office.

Carbo said Gurino a supporter late mob boss John Gotti had not been part of the investigation before Kidan's May 1 interview. "He came up with all of this information," Carbo told The Associated Press on Friday.

Kidan and Abramoff had previously insisted, through their attorneys, that they knew nothing about Boulis' killing. Three other men are charged with murder in the case.
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2058243
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:13 AM
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18. Report: Abramoff Ex-Partner Knew of Slaying
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- A man who purchased SunCruz Casinos with lobbyist Jack Abramoff in 2000 has told authorities he knows who killed the casino's founder the following year, according to a report published Friday.

Adam Kidan told authorities in a 2 1/2-hour interview last month that John Gurino, who was later killed by a business partner, shot SunCruz founder Konstantinos "Gus" Boulis in 2001, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported. The paper did not say how it obtained the taped interview.

Kidan and Abramoff had previously insisted, through their attorneys, that they knew nothing about Boulis' killing. Three other men are charged with murder in the case.

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/09/AR2006060900484_pf.html

This raises a lot of questions. Especially about Wellstone
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:13 AM
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19. Could you explain the Wellstone connection?
That angle is new to me.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:00 AM
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20. BushCo and La Cosa Nostra!
BushCo makes the mafia look like children with a lemonade stand in comparison.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:41 PM
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21. How long do you think Kidan's going to be in this world?
Ratting out the Mob can be very hazardous to your health. On the other hand a nice little stay in the witness protection program can be a get out of jail free card.

Could Casino Jack be going this route too?

Oh God I love this story! Carl Hiaasen couldn't make this up.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:16 PM
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22. I got to see Carl once
and he said the same exact thing. He couldn't make this stuff up.



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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:40 AM
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23. Has no one read the Mad Cow Productions Website?
He's been writing of this for at least a year. Lots and lots of excellent articles and even has pics to go along with the articles. http://madcowprod.com
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