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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 07:17 AM
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Audit criticizes state election officials (Florida)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-felect21jun21,0,7563368.story?coll=sfla-news-florida

Audit criticizes state election officials

TALLAHASSEE · With a statewide election looming in September, Florida has not set up procedures designed to avoid a repeat of the 2000 presidential election fiasco, according to a state auditor general's report.

The report released Friday listed a dozen findings of problems with the state's efforts to comply with the federal Help America Vote Act. Among them: The secretary of state's office should improve the way it identifies duplicate voters and felons in a central voter database; also, it must track the types of voting machines each county uses.

"This was an audit the department asked for to get a roadmap to make sure we are in compliance," said Gov. Jeb Bush.

"On Election Day we will be in compliance."


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 07:56 AM
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1. They don't even know who is using what system?
Oh let me guess? The Repugs get paper, the DEMS get ether.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 10:02 AM
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2. Florida will be stolen again if they don't have one statewide database.
Someone, please feel free to correct me, but I believe their database system goes county by county which makes duplications, triplications of voters highly likely if you own more than one property in different counties or if you move often because you'll be listed in more than one precinct.

Add the GOP telemarketing to the chaos, and you're bound to get extra votes for the Republicans. I believe I witnessed something like this scenario:

Someone we'll call Umberto Ramirez who is a registered Republican, votes absentee in Miami, but lives, or just recently moved to Orlando. The GOP in Orlando in Orange County won't double check to see if Ramirez voted absentee in Miami in Dade County. That's not the purpose of their call. They're only concentrating on their own county, because maybe, that's the only information they have on hand. With only the Orange County records to look at, they take notice that according to their county records, Ramirez hasn't yet voted in the election. So they call him up and say that he hasn't voted and needs to come down to his Orange County precinct to vote. Ramirez is flabergasted. Ramirez, unaware of our incompetenent Florida database, says that he has already voted absentee. He doesn't explain to the guy that the absentee ballot went to Miami because he doesn't think it's relevant. He's thinking, "Surely a state like Florida would be able to connect the two." But the GOP guy on the phone is insistent that his absentee vote never made it in (which, as far as the GOP guy goes, is true. It never made it into the Orange County precinct). So Ramirez slips in under the chaos of election day, and votes again. He may even suspect he's voting twice, but prefers to vote again and be counted, than not counted at all.

How does someone go about matching up these duplicate votes in different counties in Florida if you don't know it's happening beforehand? If there's a Democratic organization out there that already has this loophole figured out, PM me because I'd like to volunteer to look over records to make the determination.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 10:47 AM
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3. The Brennan Justice Center has information about voter databases
I just spotted it a few weeks ago and haven't even read the paper, but maybe it makes recommendations you could use...

Brennan Center for Justice http://www.brennancenter.org/
:bluebox: Brennan Center report finds improper implementation of new voter registration databases could prevent millions from voting.

And the 3 big election justice organizations:

VotersUnite.org http://www.votersunite.org/
:bluebox: Listings of local election justice groups
:bluebox: Voting system failures by vendor and by state
:bluebox: Report: Mythbreakers: Facts about electronic elections
:bluebox: Report: Vote-switching provided by vendors
:bluebox: Report: Problems with ballot programming
:bluebox: Report: US GAO: Electronic voting not yet secure and reliable
:bluebox: Handout: Maps of election problems
:bluebox: Handout: 10 types of DRE problems
:bluebox: Handout: Pre-election testing

VoteTrustUSA.org http://www.votetrustusa.org/
:bluebox: Read the Daily News!
:bluebox: Subscribe to the Election Integrity Weekly Newsletter
:bluebox: Report: Poll Monitors’ and Poll Workers’ Guide to Electronic Voting

VerifiedVoting.org http://www.verifiedvoting.org/
:bluebox: Resolution on Electronic Voting
:bluebox: Election Administration Project: Best practices for reliable elections
:bluebox: The Election Incident Reporting System (EIRS)
:bluebox: The Verifier: Shows election systems used nationwide
:bluebox: Handouts: Election Protection Questionnaires for State Election Officials, Local Election Officials, Pre-Election Testing (Logic & Accuracy Testing), Election Day Incident Reporting, and Litigation


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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:47 PM
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4. And Pa. is next. scumtorum. n/t
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:18 PM
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5. goddammit. there won't be no friggin repeat. If anything, 2000 was GOOD
cause everybody knew it was jacked. Now, things are getting jacked and there is no friggin evidence.
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