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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:10 AM
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Bin Laden makes new statement paying tribute to slain al-Qaida in Iraq lea
(Does anyone, other than the cable "news" channels, still believe these?)

Note: this is actually an Associated Press story, but Canada .com has a actual picture/screen capture.

Bin Laden makes new statement paying tribute to slain al-Qaida in Iraq leader


Canadian Press
Published: Thursday, June 29, 2006



CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Someone purporting to be Osama bin Laden defended attacks by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi against civilians in Iraq, saying in a taped web message Friday that the slain al-Qaida leader in Iraq was acting under orders to kill anyone who backs American forces.

A message with a narration by a voice resembling bin Laden's paid tribute to al-Zarqawi in a 19-minute audio message posted on an Islamic militant web site. The message is heard as a video shows an old photo of him in a split-screen next to images of al-Zarqawi taken from a previous video.

In the message, bin Laden demands President George W. Bush hand over the body of al-Zarqawi to his family, and effusively praises the Jordanian-born militant, often in rhyming couplets. His voice sounded breathy and fatigued at times.

"We will continue to fight you and your allies everywhere, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan to run down your resources and kill your men until you return defeated to your nation," he said, addressing Bush.

(more at link)

<http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=c8aef2f2-213a-4643-8a3b-0198e8bd994c&k=67366>
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:26 AM
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1. nice timing on that.
right after the bad news for bush. pretttttty convenient.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:08 AM
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2. .
:scared: :hide: :eyes: :boring: :nopity:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:37 AM
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3. Excerpts from Osama Bin Laden Message
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 06:29 AM by Maddy McCall
Excerpts from an audio message purportedly by Osama bin Laden posted on an Islamic militant Web site Friday, praising slain al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The excerpts were translated from Arabic by The Associated Press.

"Our Islamic nation was surprised to find its knight, the lion of jihad (holy war), the man of determination and will, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, killed in a shameful American raid. ... We pray to God to bless him and accept him among the martyrs as he had hoped for."

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"Even if we lost one of our greatest knights and princes, we are happy that we have found a symbol for our great Islamic nations, one that the mujahedeen will remember and praise in poetry and in stories, secretly and aloud."

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"We remember his words, `We are fighting in Iraq with our eye on Jerusalem.' ... He set the foundation to defend his religion, win the return of Palestine, God willing, and avenge the downtrodden. He exhausted the Americans, the allies of the Jews, and made them stagger, killing their men, bleeding them of money and breaking their ranks."

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More at: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=d174a5cb-bd01-4262-9042-e238635309da

Also:

In the message, bin Laden demands President Bush hand over the body of al-Zarqawi to his family and effusively praises the Jordanian-born militant, often in rhyming couplets. His voice sounded breathy and fatigued at times.

"We will continue to fight you and your allies everywhere, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan to run down your resources and kill your men until you return defeated to your nation," he said, addressing Bush.

It was the fourth message purportedly put out this year by bin Laden. All have featured his voice in audiotapes. New video images of him have not appeared since October 2004.

The authenticity of the video could not be immediately confirmed. It bore the logo of As-Sahab, the al Qaeda production branch that releases all its messages, and was posted on an Islamic Web forum where militants often post messages. Typically, the CIA does a technical analysis to determine whether the speaker is who the tape claims and the National Counterterrorism Center analyzes the message's contents.

More at: http://wjz.com/topstories/topstories_story_180220450.html
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 08:00 AM
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4. The search for authenticity
is non-existent. The producers of the tape(I assume they are Al Qaeda recruiters) are only concerned with
delivering an impression easily accepted by anyone fanatical or stupid enough not to wonder at the format. Just about the same could be said for the "official" or MSM media response which betrays at least some modest embarrassment at the seeming charade.

One dearly would like to go back to the last "real" moving footage of Bin Laden in 2004 to again re-examine the moving lips and text match-ups and supposed references to real time events. But no, there is no search for authenticity in the media. The bogeyman is enough. One can imagine the undercurrent of shock IF in the various tapes it was incontrovertible and realistic that it was the contemporary and living Osama. Unable to think, imagine, dare curiosity or investigation except in select territories at someone's permission, the news in these cases behaves as a dropped foil, as someone improperly cued and caught onstage without the right lines. In the Islamicist world they apparently don't give a hoot about the refinements of trickery or plausibility because the standard set by the West is low or non-existent and not relevant to their audience except as an easy counterpoint. Way too easy. Not a glove is laid upon the nonsense. The sole exception of note was the videotape of 2004, painfully trying to rise to the pitiful level of plausibility accepted in the West. The message itself appeared genuinely theirs since it betrays the hardwired ideological disconnect of how get at the blinkered and functionally insane American political news forum.

Adding them together, for the moment, I myself, IMHO, am venturing to say the whole operation is a nervous Al Qaeda production company, sans Omar and sans Osama, still loyal to their old guard and its cause and plans. To believe at this stage that any perverse American black ops is involved would make "Mother Night" by Vonnegut appear naively timid and unreal in its realism. This is a level of analysis a thousand miles above the news atmosphere that cannot pierce the cover of a fairy tale book(because it can't be opened when reporters are handcuffed behind the back) much less current events and the motivations of blatant criminals.

The nervous embarrassment exhibited by CNN at the juxtaposition of voice with still images shows a stammering braking on the use of such material too loudly in the timely renewal of chicken little chickenhawkdom in the election arena. I am more interested in the motivation in the "most trusted names in news" for their cautious lead up and follow through on Bin Laden speeches. Are they afraid of what might be said, that it might spread riots or evil propaganda, or are they cringing at its silly use again to make their organizations a cheap outlet- not for Al Qaeda- but the pitiful war on terror?

An audio tape. Juxtaposed to photos. No comment. And that's all for tonight.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 10:47 AM
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8. Just to clarify, I don't buy this "audio message" BS either...
...and I am as much of an OBL "expert" as anyone CNN might use. I heard enough of the tape to be fairly sure that this one is fake too.

Btw, IMHO, OBL died in December 2001 not long after the Tora Bora fight, and doubt they will ever find his dead body to confirm his death.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 08:32 AM
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5. nm
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 08:33 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 08:36 AM
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6. Another audio tape?
Uh-huh. Why doesn't anyone in the news media ask why Bin Laden suddenly stopped making videos?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 10:24 AM
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7. Wave for the camera, Karl. Oops, no camera.
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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:14 PM
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9. No URL for this 'Islamic web forum'
No where in the story do they give the internet address for this 'web forum' because if they did it could be easily traced to the source.
The last one they did give out traced back to a Texas ISP.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:55 PM
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11. good point.

And as so far, I'm still hearing, NPR at least say, that the voice on the tape has yet to be independently verified.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:30 PM
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10. now we are getting dueling fake Osama tapes
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