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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:06 PM
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U.S. weighs divulging Iran-Iraq proof
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iran_intelligence



U.S. weighs divulging Iran-Iraq proof
By KATHERINE SHRADER and ANNE GEARAN

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is haunted by the history of intelligence blunders about Saddam Hussein's supposed weapons of mass destruction as the United States tries to document that Iran is providing lethal help to Iraqi fighters.

After weeks of preparation and revisions, U.S. officials are preparing to detail evidence supporting administration's claims of Iran's meddlesome and deadly activities. A briefing was scheduled Sunday in Baghdad.

The Iran dossier, some 200 pages thick in its classified form, was revised heavily after officials decided it was not ready for release as planned last month. What is made public probably would be short, and shorter on details than the administration recently had suggested.

No one who has seen the files has suggested the evidence is thin. But senior officials — gun-shy after the drubbing the administration took for the faulty intelligence leading to the 2003 Iraq invasion — were underwhelmed by the packaging.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:10 PM
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1. Didn't they try revealing the "proof" with Colin Powell and the vile of borax?
And the fuzzy black and white pictures of tractor trailers? There is no proof this administration could possible provide. None. They have zero credibility, because when they've provided us PROOF in the past, it's always turned out to have been made up.

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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 05:39 PM
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15. This is Iran's "Colin Powell Moment"
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:12 PM
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2. They're bent on war with Iran, and they're going to do it without the needed resources.
No Army, no draft... no support from the American people and/or Congress... and they'll do it as part of the Iraq war and demand funding.

And then we'll be losing in 3 countries.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:14 PM
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3. Blunders and gaffes? Wouldn't the word "lies" use less ink...
and be more to the point? I feel so bad that the administration took a "drubbing". I bet the families of those officials still grieve over that drubbing they took.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:15 PM
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4. Didn't the Bush Administration recently send back the new National Intelligence Estimate because
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 03:17 PM by FVZA_Colonel
they disagreed with some of the conclusions it made about Iran's involvement (mainly, that it is much more ambiguous and murky than the administration wants it to be)? If I am wrong then please correct me, but I believe that reports of this surfaced on MSNBC sometime last week.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:16 PM
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5. Another Dodgy Dossier - 200 pages thick!!!
200 PAGES!!!!!11111

It's got to be true....

:rofl:
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:17 PM
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6. Evidence is only as good as the "chain of custody"
And since these bozos have had their hands on it...
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:17 PM
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7. Let me guess: they have factory invoices for bomb kits Iran delivered.
A) They match the remains of EFP kits found at bombing sites.
or
B) Captured insurgents verify them as genuine.
or
C) Both of the above.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:37 AM
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17. Helliburton sold them to some Iranian arms dealers while darth
cheneyou$$elf was their "official" CEO (even if doing so was illegal: like, dead-eyed dicky would care if it was legal or not?).

Must be printed somewhere in those 200 pages paper-waste and the CIA's out of markers since 2004.

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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:29 PM
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8. Gee, could this be any more slanted?
In just the quoted excerpt, we have:

"intelligence blunders"

"faulty intelligence"

It's as if the poor bush was "fooled" because of all that "faulty intelligence" and "blunders." Who could have known Iraq had nothing? After all, "everyone had the same intel!!!111!! It was HUGH!!1!"

Why can't they just come out and say what it was -- a series of lies that were, in fact, orchestrated entirely by the bush cabal? They (the "press") won't because they were willing participants in the fraud.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 03:43 PM
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9. I have been noticing this myself, Mr.bush had no responsibility.
It was the CIA's fault, the Pentagon's fault, not Mrbush or cheney's fault.
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 04:11 PM
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10. Iran's meddlesome activities ?
The hypocrisy of it all is breathtaking.

Who started 'meddling' in Iraq first ?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 04:21 PM
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11. "Blunders"? "BLUNDERS"??!!
That's AP for you. Remember, it was an AP computer that all our votes got fed through, on 11/2/04, as they came in from Diebold/ES&S's central tabulators run on "trade secret," proprietary programming code, and were then passed on to the network consortium pollster, who altered the exit polls (Kerry won) to force them to fit the results of those rightwing Bushite electronic voting corporation "official results" (Bush won.)

Dirtbags. Democracy-killers.

It is also AP that never mentions the name "Hugo Chavez" without adding "friend of Fidel Castro." He is friends with Nestor Kirshner of Argentina, Lula da Silva of Brazil, Rafael Correa of Ecuador, and Evo Morales of Bolivia--all true blue democracies, like Venezuela is. Doesn't matter to AP. The other tag: "increasingly authoritarian," always "according to his critics." (No names, no occasions, no dates--anonymous "critics.") No facts. No respect for the voters of Venezuela. AP writing.

Blunders. It almost makes you laugh.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 04:29 PM
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12. Reminds me of the "white paper" Bush was to show the world...
...post 9-11 that would demonstrate beyond all doubt that Osama Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda were behind 9-11. That disappeared unshown down the memory hole very quickly. I can envision Bush and Cheney sitting in the dock at the Hague saying, "but we never said it was Bin Laden!".

"U.S. officials are preparing to detail evidence supporting administration's claims of Iran's meddlesome and deadly activities. ... The Iran dossier, some 200 pages thick in its classified form, was revised heavily after officials decided it was not ready for release as planned last month..."

Will the short-version top the showmanship of Powell at the UN? Is it meant to precede the coming bombing of Iran?

How can anyone fall for this bullsh*t again?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 05:23 PM
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13. And remember Fat Osama?


They were going to pass off these two as identical until Al Jazeera got a copy of the video and they suddenly coudn't "authenticate" it any longer.

:headbang:
rocknation
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:46 PM
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20. Didn't OBL's brother have a recent fallout with the CIA
over funding in Yeman taht caused Somalia operations to go badly wrong?
yeah, they killed him.
maybe this is OBL's bro ?

LOL

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 05:36 PM
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14. by Katherine Schrader, purveyor of disinformation on the Administration's warrantless wiretapping
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 10:10 PM
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16. W E I G H S is not how you spell LIES......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:06 AM
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18. U.S. set to assert evidence against Iran

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070211/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iran_intelligence;_ylt=AucLr_RhUzzTiExmucHfl2yMwfIE

U.S. set to assert evidence against Iran

By KATHERINE SHRADER and ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writers 2 hours, 14 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is haunted by the history of intelligence blunders about Saddam Hussein's supposed weapons of mass destruction as the United States tries to document that
Iran is providing lethal help to Iraqi fighters.


After weeks of preparation and revisions, U.S. officials are preparing to detail evidence supporting administration's claims of Iran's meddlesome and deadly activities. A briefing was scheduled Sunday in Baghdad.

The Iran dossier, some 200 pages thick in its classified form, was revised heavily after officials decided it was not ready for release as planned last month. What is made public probably would be short, and shorter on details than the administration recently had suggested.

No one who has seen the files has suggested the evidence is thin. But senior officials — gun-shy after the drubbing the administration took for the faulty intelligence leading to the 2003
Iraq invasion — were underwhelmed by the packaging.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:06 AM
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19. Sorry, but with all the lies can we expect anything like the truth??
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