Jihadist Video Shows Boy Beheading Man

[Behind the Aegis]

Source: AP

KILI FAQIRAN, Pakistan (AP) -- The boy with the knife looks barely 12. In a high-pitched voice, he denounces the bound, blindfolded man before him as an American spy. Then he hacks off the captive's head to cries of "God is great!" and hoists it in triumph by the hair.

A video circulating in Pakistan records the grisly death of Ghulam Nabi, a Pakistani militant accused of betraying a top Taliban official who was killed in a December airstrike in Afghanistan.

An Associated Press reporter confirmed Nabi's identity by visiting his family in Kili Faqiran, their remote village in southwestern Pakistan.

The video, which was obtained by AP Television News in the border city of Peshawar on Tuesday, appears authentic and is unprecedented in jihadist propaganda because of the youth of the executioner.



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[babylonsister]

1. There is a video that I read about earlier, but I thought it was not something

anyone wanted to see.

[CookCountyResident]

2. When will the Jihadis stop training kids

to fight their wars?

[silverojo]

3. When the Repukes quit brainwashing their kids

About abortion and gays. :mad:

[brentspeak]

5. What the heck does one have to do with the other?

[fujiyama]

12. It doesn't.

We have problems here (obviously considering the horrific events of this past week), but pointing to our own as a way to deflect attention from injustices abroad is just a way to avoid facing the problem.

Unfortunately, all too often on DU it is impossible to criticize what happens elsewhere, without being accused of being a neocon enabler or whatever else.

[ohio2007]

37. it's called "Hijacking a thread"

don't let facts get in the way of a 'story'

[ends_dont_justify]

45. it has to do with jihad. both brainwash kids for belief in psychotic wars N/T

[Ninja Jordan]

7. Get out of here with that garbage.

[ohio2007]

34. Maybe it's the Amish behind all this

Don't forget the fatwas placed on an ex muslim woman that happens to be gay

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/rss/print_503977.html

They are working their "freedom of speech" propaganda against her in Pittsburgh Pa.

[iverglas]

38. I think you're confusing two shameless self-promoters

Canada's own Irshad Manji is a lesbian.

I've never heard that Ayaan Hirsi Ali is. It might have made her an even bigger jewel in the crown for her employer, though: the American Enterprise Institute. The name may be familiar.

But hey, they all seem to get along just fine:

http://volokh.com/posts/1141186381.shtml

[ohio2007]

40. They consider the value of all women to be somewhere between that of

livestock and mans best friend. They are basically treated like dogs yet womens groups seem to be playing the "submissive" in ignoring the way 1/2 the women on the planet may be treated in less than 20 years

[iverglas]

43. not interested in ignorant bigotry, thanks

Anybody who wants to talk this way about any "they" should find a quarter and call someone who is interested, I'd suggest.

The same applies to ignorant statements about women's groups. I imagine you have access to Google; you might benefit from using it.

Meanwhile, the charmer to whom you originally referred is still working for the right-wing think tank I named.

I guess the USAmerican right wing is just overwhelmed with concern about women's rights and well-being, while women's groups keep their eyes fixed on their knitting.

[Marrah_G]

47. self-delete, posted in the wrong spot

[Warren Stupidity]

15. Oh like we don't dress our kids up as little soldiers?

Like we don't send 18 year olds off to fight and die for old men with big stupid dreams and schemes?

[crossroads]

42. Well Said! nt

[SemperEadem]

33. probably the same time

the white supremicist militia groups in this country stop training their children.

[hang a left]

4. I think I will pass on viewing the video but...

Can someone tell me how a boy could sever an adult head completely with a knife?

[CookCountyResident]

6. Read the story. This is the information.

A continuous 2 1/2-minute shot then shows the victim lying on his side on a patch of rubble-strewn ground. A man holds Nabi by his beard while the boy, wearing a camouflage military jacket and oversized white sneakers, cuts into the throat. Other men and boys call out "Allahu akbar!" - "God is great!" - as blood spurts from the wound.

The film, overlain with jihadi songs, then shows the boy hacking and slashing at the man's neck until the head is severed.

[hang a left]

8. Yeah..

I just finished reading my first post was a reaction without information from the article.

I have to say that my gut instinct is that this video is an effort of "someone" to emote anger and disgust towards the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Although this feeling came upon me gradually while reading the article, the last two paragraphs have increased my suspicious.

snip>

He noted the Taliban had teenage combatants but they were not recruited on a large scale because of the availability of adult fighters. He said he had seen children in the background of some jihadist videos but none in which they were directly involved in violence.

"I don't know why they would do this," Zarifi said. "The Taliban have to some extent tried to play to the public in Afghanistan and have not engaged in the complete sowing of mayhem that we have seen in Iraq. But this kind of act is really egregious. It's off the charts."

snip>

"off the charts"? How do you say that in Afghani??

[Igel]

26. The language was probably Pashto.

(With a few variant spellings.)

Note that the Pakistani press in the last 2-3 months has had more than a couple reports of a few different incidents in the NWFP: "Activists" coming in and requesting of headmasters, at gunpoint, if they can "recruit for jihad". They usually take a few kids if none volunteer. In one case the headmaster said they couldn't go into classes and "recruit", so they kidnapped his son.

[Marrah_G]

46. The Taliban's treatment of women alone should be enough emote anger and disgust.

They are monsters that should never be allowed into power again.

[jmc247]

9. These scum are pieces of human shit

[qdemn7]

10. No...

You're insulting human shit when you compare them to that. At least you can use human shit for fertilizer. These ....... are a waste of skin, air, water and food.

[High Plains]

19. Thanks for that enlightening analysis.

[populistdriven]

11. Why did Reagan & CIA help build todays Madrassas & Militant Islam

Was all of this worth it to defeat Russia in Cold War?

[Ninja Jordan]

14. Right, so it's America's fault this kid cut off a hostage's head.

Jesus Christ.

[Moochy]

17. No America is blameless and pure in all things

:eyes:

[Ninja Jordan]

18. In this one it sure as hell is.

Roll your eyes all you want

[PittPoliSci]

20. read the devil's game

tell me if you still think america's aristo-financial elite should have no blame after that.

[INDIA]

28. Noes!! Amerikka is the MOST EVIL! Cant u see im series?!?!?!

[kingoth]

21. you have

smartassed comments... nothing more.

[Moochy]

22. Thanks!

Welcome to DU!

[leftynyc]

24. Are you saying that these groups have

no responsibility for this? The US is responsible for the filth that is poured into these children minds by their parents, their teachers, their holy men? Are even the adults really just mere children who have no responsibility for their action?

[Moochy]

29. No, That's not what I'm saying

No that's not what I'm saying. These vile groups have 100% of the responsibility for their actions. I did not watch the video. The war in Afghanistan took a real back seat to Iraq.. and that is GWB's fault. Is it America's fault that the Taliban are resurgent? The mission never had the troops necessary to fully defeat them while guarding the borders. Was that goal even attainable? And would that even have made pakistan's tribal areas less ... radical? But we back Musharraf who is unwilling and/or unable to stop these forces in his own country.

[leftynyc]

30. I agree 100% with everything you say

I apologize for assuming you were blaming the US for everything as I have found plenty of people here ready to do just that.

Bush totally dropped the ball on Al Queda. When you have supposed allies like Pakistan giving shelter to Al Queda and other radical groups while we look the other way, it's hard to take a war on terror seriously. Not to mention our cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia which finances so many of these groups.

I don't know what the answer is to videos such as this. But we can't close our eyes to the fact there are a lot of seriously disturbed people who do want to do us plenty of harm.

[populistdriven]

32. I would agree with all of the above with the addition that our actions have

long term consequences, both good and bad. The failure to consider them has repeatedly harmed our country and the world.

[Igel]

27. The madaris?

No, the US armed, trained, and funded various jihadist groups. Some formed AQ after the fact under bin Ladin, a bit player on the field but important in doling out riyals.

For the madaris, you have two different things going. First, Deobandi Islam, which came about for the same reason Wahhabism came along. Deobandi Islam as practiced is a wretched thing; some of the bits I've read lead me to think that the followers picked and chose which early writings (from the 1800s) were taken as definitive.

The Sa'udis are more than willing--and have been since the '60s--to fund them, with a few changes to the program. They got a big boost under ul-Haq, the father of the Taliban: he Islamized the ISI and made the "Islamic state" rather intolerant; his followers rather hate the "moderate and enlightened Islam" that Musharraf is trying to foster.

[ohio2007]

36. gotta link to those facts ?

The house of Saud may have a few oil dollars invested in these "shrines of higher learning".
Your Cold War question should be asked of the people that lived in the Warsaw pact nations don't ya think?

[iverglas]

39. eye of beholder

http://www.militarystudent.dod.mil/pls/portal9x/url/page/K12APPL/ISSUESHOME/ISSUESCMSCONTENTDETAIL?COHE_ID=149276&LOCATION=ISSUES


One can be revolted by the first, or by the second, or by both ...

Sometimes how one reacts, to which, depends on who and where one is and thus what one's understanding of the meaning of the images is. Sometimes it depends on something else.

on edit

Of course, there are always pix like these by which to gauge one's reaction:



"All the civilians killed by the Israelis had been ordered to abandon their homes in the border village by the Israelis themselves a few hours earlier. Leave, they were told by loudspeaker; and leave they did, 20 of them in a convoy of civilian cars. That's when the Israeli jets arrived to bomb them, killing 20 Lebanese, at least nine of them children. The local fire brigade could not put out the fires as they all burned alive in the inferno. Another "terrorist" target had been eliminated.
- Robert Fisk"

Insert nationality of your choice, and consider your reaction; people's babies are killed by other people's bombs and weapons. Does how one feels about someone's baby being dressed up in military gear depend on how much one cares about that baby being killed by someone else's bullets?

[sadiesworld]

49. IIRC, the problem with the first pic wasn't really the uniform...

it was the bombs. :eyes:

[Contrary1]

13. I wish I had not read that...

I have no words.

[msongs]

16. isn't religion wonderful? may pieces be upon him. nt

[woo me with science]

23. Do you think he will need as much therapy

as Ireland Baldwin?

[ohio2007]

35. ..while these kids are demanded to be "wiped off the map" by a nutjob

who needs therapy ;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JkS3cZntDTY

religion is a dangerous thing

[tabasco]

25. The Bush administration trusted the Pakistanis to "guard the border"

during the Tora Bora operation to capture Bin Laden.

The reason they had to do this is because the bulk of the US military was on standby to invade Iraq, a country that was not a threat to the US.

This was the most absurd plan and at that point, I knew that Bush had no intention of catching Bin Laden.

The oil was most important.

[agincourt]

31. The Taliban and Al-Quiada

should have been destroyed completely before any responsible US government even considered going after Saddam. Bush placed "tried to kill by Daddy" over the deaths of 3000 Americans. It boggles my mind that at best only 10% of Americans really grasp that fact. Bush placed family matters and cronyism over eliminating the real enemy. And they are the enemy of civilization for sure.

[tidy_bowl]

41. Religion ...

Destroy the seed of evil, or it will grow up to your ruin.

Aesop

[jollyreaper2112]

44. I saw the censored version

Beginning of the video, right up until the point where the kid would be making his cut, the footage ended right when blood would show. WTF is up with these people, they watching Apocalypse Now too many times?

[Marrah_G]

48. The Taliban hold on any country needs to be completely destroyed

This is what life was/is like for women under Taliban rule. They are truly monsters.


Restrictions Placed on Women by the Taliban
compiled by the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA), a political/social organization of Afghan women struggling for peace, freedom, democracy and women's rights.


Some of the restrictions the Taliban have placed upon Women:

1.

Complete ban on women working outside their homes, including teachers, doctors and engineers.
2.

Complete restriction on women's movement outside of their houses without a mahram (father, brother or husband).
3.

Ban on dealing with male shopkeepers.
4.

Ban on being treated by a male doctor.
5.

Ban on studying at school, university or any other educational institution.
6.

Compulsory wearing of a long veil (Burqa) which covers women from head to toe.
7.

Whipping, beating and verbal abuse of women whose Burqa is not worn in accordance to Taliban rules. The same applies to women found in public without a mahram.
8.

Whipping of women in public for having non-covered ankles.
9.

Public stoning of women for having sex outside marriage (a number of lovers are stoned to death under this rule.)
10.

Ban on all use of make-up (a number of women's fingers have been amputated for having painted nails).
11.

A ban on women from talking or shaking hands with non-mahram males.
12.

A ban on women for laughing loudly (no stranger should hear the voice of a women).
13.

A ban on wearing high heeled shoes which would produce sound while walking as hearing the sound of a women's step is forbidden.
14.

A ban on women using a taxi without a mahram.
15.

Banning women's presence in radio, television and gatherings of any kind.
16.

Banning women from playing any sport or entering a sports centre or club.
17.

A ban on women riding a bicycle or a motorcycle even with their mahrams.
18.

A ban on women wearing brightly coloured clothing (in their terms "sexually attracting colours").
19.

Banning women's gatherings on festive occasions such as the Eids or for a recreational purpose.
20.

Banning women from washing clothes next to rivers or at public places.
21.

All place names with the word 'women' in it have been changed. For example "women's garden" has been renamed "spring garden".
22.

Banning women from appearing on the balcony of their apartments or houses.
23.

Compulsory painting of all windows so women can not be seen from the outside.
24.

Banning male tailors from taking measurements or sewing women's clothes.
25.

Banned from using female public baths.
26.

Public buses have been separated into male and female buses.
27.

A Ban on being photographed or filmed.
28.

A Ban on women's pictures being printed on newspapers and books or even hung their own houses.
29.

Ban on listening to music not for women but for men as well.
30.

Total ban on watching movies, television and video for everyone.

copyright © RAWA 1999