Lieberman Scolds Reid For 'War Lost' Remark

[jmc247]

Source: Hartford Courant

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman rebuked Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid on Friday, saying he strongly disagreed with Reid's assessment that the Iraq war is "lost."

"This is exactly the wrong time to question our strategy in Iraq," said Lieberman, "or that our new strategy has failed."

"The question now before us," Lieberman said, "is whether we respond to these terrorist attacks by running away, as al Qaeda hopes -- abandoning the future of Iraq, the Middle East and ultimately our own security to the very same people responsible for this week's atrocities -- or whether we stand united to fight them."

To Lieberman, the choice is clear. "We should provide General Petraeus and his troops with the time and the resources to succeed. We should not surrender in the face of barbarism." Gen. Davis Petraeus is the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

Read more: http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-lieberman-reid-0420,0,6919400.story?coll=hc-headlines-home

[hobbit709]

1. Why pay attention to anything

Liarman says.

[Cha]

2. lieman is a whorin'warmonger and

needs to get his scrively ass to the front lines in Iraq.

[uppityperson]

3. Well, when is NOT "exactly the wrong time"?

[Solly Mack]

4. barbarity, you nitwit...barbarity

such was your barbarism

I slay me

[goclark]

5. I am convinced that he carried secrets to Bush in 2000 ~

He is real scum to me.

[MadMaddie]

21. You know it is possible that he sold the Dems out...it is

becoming a more believable scenario every day.

[goclark]

25. It's real to me that Joey is a traitor

and we can add James Carville to the list.

How Hillary can trust him and his evil wife is beyond me.

[acmavm]

6. "OUR" new strategy?

WTF?

It has nothing to do with us Joe.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. What terrorists, Joe?

Are the voices in your head telling you there are terrorists again? :crazy:

[NoodleyAppendage]

8. Would love to read headline, "Reid kicks traitorous whore Lieberman in the ass."

Lieberman deserves a HUGE dose of karmic retribution.

J

[jamesinca]

9. 2008 Joe

At that point we will have more seats in the Senate and you will be relegated to the corner. No committee to chair, 4 years left in the Senate. I doubt he will be able to bs the CT voters again. I keep seeing re-runs of the Lamont campaign ad of the car hitting the brick wall over and over again. 19 months of Holy Joe left, then he will have no black mail power left, no threat of joining the republican party will matter at that point. I am not sure which I am more excited about, Bush or Lieberman leaving

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Bush's strategy has failed, Joe.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

We all understand that you wanted it otherwise. It didn't work out that way.

Now deal with it.

[annabanana]

11. He is clueless... Too scared for his own good, . . . n/t

[Hand]

12. Message to Holy Joe...

[Liberal Veteran]

13. Lieberman = Grima Wormtongue

Reid needs to tell him "Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth!"

[ProgressiveAmPatriot]

14. They spelled "accomplishing" wrong

They spelled it "accompolishing"

[Fovea]

15. Tell me Joe

when would the right time be for congress to perform their constitutional responsibilities?

Let me guess, when someone named Clinton is in the WH?

[Bjorn Against]

16. It is time Reid scolded back...

Democrats can not keep letting this guy slam them without being called out. Who cares if he leaves the party, he doesn't vote with us anyways and the committees are locked until after the 2008 elections when we will most likely pick up at least a couple seats anyways.

[cliss]

17. The Kissmobile.

Does anybody remember the Kiss Mobile? While Holy Joe was out campaigning for the senate seat, some very creative people created a "Float" Car with Luscious Lieberman kissing Bush.

As I was falling asleep last night, I thought about that statue & how funny it was. And LIE-berman's face when he saw it.

Joe, anything you say at this point is just.....

[Larkspur]

19. The Kiss mobile still exists and

it may be traveling to Maine to help drive Lieberman's friend, Sen. Sue Collins (R-ME), out of the Senate.

[cliss]

27. This one?

Who could forget, such a classic moment.

I'm glad to hear it's still being used.

[LaStrega]

18. dip shit

"... or that our new strategy has failed."

He's such a tool. I agree, get yer ass to the frontline, Joe.

[arewenotdemo]

20. I'm willing to give Fighting Joementum the benefit of the doubt on this one

For the valor he exhibited in tackling those Yale law courses in the '60s.

A spokesperson told the Hartford Courant in 1994 that Lieberman received an educational deferment from the Vietnam War draft when he was an undergraduate and law student from 1960 to 1967. Upon graduating from Yale law school at 25, Lieberman qualified for a family deferment as he was already married and had one child.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

22. Let's get real.

Lieberman has someone out there pushing his message to the media. Most likely Dan Gerstein. But at the end of the day, does he have any real cred? Does he have any real constituency in this?

Not really. Just a shell of a man, a shadow of what he once was. Sold out everything he ever professed to believe in, for the proverbial 13 pieces of silver.

In a way, he is to be pitied. Just not too much.

[JanusAscending]

23. Chicken shit Joe !!

There was a very important annual dinner for Dem's here in Ct. Fri. night. Nancy Pelosi was the main speaker, and Senator Dodd was there as well. It was a fundraiser, and for a price you got to have your picture taken with the "big guns". In my invitation, it stated that Joe LIEberman was scheduled to attend. THAT was reason enough for me not to go. I told some members from our D.T.C. to spit in his eye for me, if per chance they got to meet him. He is a PARIAH to us. Guess what???? The little weasel didn't even show up!! He's afraid to show his face in a DEMOCRATIC crowd, as well he should be. He used the excuse that it was his Sabbath. Well, bullshit!! He didn't know that when he let them put his name on the invite? I'm sure many other people like me didn't attend because he was "supposed" to be there!!! I really wish Harry Reid would tell him to go "begot" himself, and take away his Committee Chairmanship. He is a "non-entity" to the Party!!!:puke:

[rodeodance]

24. well, Joe-------put on a Uniform and go fight em!

[saigon68]

45. No Joe is A Viet Nam Draft Dodging Weasel

Like his master and handler, Richard (five deferments) Cheney

[BrklynLiberal]

26. Who the hell is Joe Lieberman??? and why is he making those weird noises ????

:crazy: :shrug:

[BenDavid]

28. Here we go again with words taken

out of context and reported wrong throughout the country. Here is exactly what Reid said:
"This war is lost, and that the surge is not accomplishing anything, as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday.
I was like the odd guy out yesterday at the White House, but I at least told him what he needed to hear, not what he wanted to hear. And more people have to start telling George Bush what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear. I did that."

HERE IS WHAT THE MEDIA DID NOT REPORT FROM THE SAME SPEECH ----"My conscience is clear, because I believe the war, at this stage, can only be won diplomatically, politically, and economically."

In the subsequent Senate floor speech, Reid again said that the "war is lost" but reiterated his belief that there is a political solution to a stable and secure Iraq:

Mr. REID. Madam President, the White House has been telling America that Democrats are doing the wrong thing by calling for a change of course in Iraq. They say holding the Iraqi Government accountable is wrong. They say finding a political solution Iraq is wrong. They say redeploying troops out of a civil war is wrong. They have said even debating a strategy for changing course is dangerous, and many Senate Republicans have backed that up by blocking several of our attempts to debate this issue here on the Senate Floor.

Conditions in Iraq get worse by the day. Now we find ourselves policing another nation's civil war. We are less secure from the many threats to our national security than we were when the war began. **********As long as we follow the President's path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course.********** No one wants us to succeed in the Middle East more than I do. But there must be a change of course. Our brave men and women overseas have passed every test with flying colors. They have earned our pride and our praise. More important, they deserve a strategy worthy of their sacrifice.

Yet, in reporting on Reid's statement that the Iraq war "is lost," most media outlets failed to provide the full context of his comments. In addition to the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, the Associated Press, the following television news shows did not include the portion of Reid's statements in which he said that "the war, at this stage, can only be won diplomatically, politically, and economically"

AND THIS IS THE SHAME OF THIS SO CALLED LIBERAL MEDIA.....

[w4rma]

31. You're right. You're exactly right.

Big media isn't reporting that aspect of the speech because it puts the onus on Bush to actually accomplish something.

[anotherdrew]

29. Lieberman is a bloodthirsty lying sack of demon shit. Killing people isn't going to solve anything

and it's all the military can do

[mcscajun]

30. No surprises from the Courant; they backed Lyin' Joe in the Democratic Primary

over challenger Ned Lamont.

They're just "stickin' wit' their boy." :eyes:

[lyonn]

32. Joe! Listen up Joe. If we leave Iraq that will take the fun out of

Arabs killing Arabs in that country. As long as we are there they have a cause that is Great for Allah's sake. The Arabs are getting really good at blowing things up, just like the U.S. Talk about terrorist training camps, Iraq is much more effective than Afghanistan ever was. Osama is one happy man, things are working out swell for his cause.

You realize this is sarcasm, but there is a lot of truth in my observations. Ah, but Joe isn't listening to the Democrats.

[truthisfreedom]

33. Shut your mouth, blowhole Joe.

You never have anything constructive to say, you DINO.

[Honeycombe8]

34. Lieberman doesn't have the best interests of our country at heart.

He has the best interests of another country at heart, IMO.

[LeftishBrit]

36. Just curious - would you say the same thing about everyone else who supports the war?

Or is it only certain racial and ethnic groups who are to be suspected???

And how is the war benefitting ANY country? Destabilizing the Middle East is a danger to all in the region. The only people who benefit are those in Big Oil, reconstruction companies notably Halliburton, and those who enjoy the power of empire. Actually, even the latter don't really benefit from the mess; but they can't bear to admit defeat.

[Honeycombe8]

41. Interesting question. I suspect all who favor aggressively the IW...

have their own interests at heart. In Lieberman's instance, I suspect it's because of his loyalty to Israeli interests; it is not secret that Israel is in favor of the IW and has wanted a bigger U.S. involvement in the Middle East in total. It suspects, with good reason, that the country of Israel is in danger of being attacked by any no. of Arab countries in the region.

Others have their own interests at heart...either Israel, or their oil stocks, or their stocks in Halliburton subsidiaries, or the no-bid contracts awarded to other companies, or the oil in Iraq.

A number of Jewish Americans feel a certain closeness to the country of Israel, referring to it occasionally as "my homeland," etc. Nothing wrong with this at all. I believe Lieberman has made it no secret that he feels this certain closeness with Israel. Not all Jewish people do, but I think he's made no secret of the fact that he is one who does.

[LeftishBrit]

42. Could it not be that some people think that American interests are served by hegemony in the Middle

East, and that the Iraq war will advance this?

I think they are absolutely WRONG to think this; but nonetheless some do

It is not at all clear, in any case, that Israeli interests are favoured by the war in Iraq. Instability in the region and increased risk of terrorism is a danger for Israel as well as everyone else. In fact, the Israeli population have been very divided on this war. A poll taken by Ha'aretz in early 2003 suggested that 46% of Israelis were opposed to an American invasion of Iraq, and 43% in favour. This hardly supports the idea that 'Israel' as a whole supported the war.

Suspecting people of 'looking after another country's interests' just because of their ethnicity is fraught with danger. And how does one explain the hawkishness of several non-Jewish, non-Israeli, supposedly 'socialist' British politicians, such as Blair, John Reid, David Blunkett, and a number of others?

[Tyler Durden]

46. This has nothing to do with "Ethnic Groups" unless Leiberman feels that way...

This has to do with the interests of a foreign nation, one that panders to the support of certain Racial and Ethnic groups in this country.

If you took "ISRAEL" out of the sentence and inserted some other nation as running PAC's and not being listed as foreign agents, there would be hell to pay.

And I think anyone who thinks that our involvement in the middle east doesn't take heat off of Israel is kidding themselves. I can't even remember the last report of a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv or Haifa.

[LeftishBrit]

35. As if it wouldn't be true if Reid didn't say it!

Lieberman's idea seems to be 'don't talk about it and then it won't exist'. What an ostrich. Stupid warmongering idiot.

[CreekDog]

37. Further evidence that Reid got it right

If you don't have time to find out the details, just go with the opposite of whatever Lieberman says. 4 out of 5 dentists recommend it.

[Jacobin]

38. Does anyone remember when holy Joe

Slammed Howard Dean for saying that the capture of Saddam was meaningless and wouldn't lead to peace in Iraq?

I think Holy Joe has it wrong..........again. The war IS lost

[goforit]

39. Joe, Joe, Joe........ Using our young men in uniform for your personal interest

Is looking real bad on your resume to God in heaven!!!

[CreekDog]

40. Just like

A broken clock can be relied upon to tell you what time it isn't

The words of Joe Lieberman can assure you what is not truth

And so go the days of our lives

[crossroads]

43. Lieberman Has 0 Credibility! Turncoat! nt

[TankLV]

44. Hey, LIEberman, you fucking REPUKE TROLL, fuck off!

you're no Democrat...

YOU'RE proven WRONG on the issues...